Where is Eberle's Ice RC?

[30ranfordfan]

Not really making them anymore rare though. 99 copies is still 99 copies. I don't have the numbers, but I'd be surprised to find out that a fewer number of Halls will make their way through eBay than Tavares did last year.

do you think that because ice isn't it's own product and you have to literally buy a box of something else just to get ONE pack, it makes this years ice product even more valuable?? cause rookies should be even harder to get, let alone the base and game used stuff.

i think ice this year is great

[30ranfordfan]

Depends on the shop owner, I guess.

I was @ my LCS this past weekend... really only needed one touches, but bought a few packs of Black Diamond, Donruss, and OPC. They opened a fresh box of Black Diamond to sell the single packs - I asked if they would sell the Bonus Pack... and they did.... at the same price as the regular packs.

that's a very good point, but i guess people who are going to get black diamond and spx as "pack buyers", don't care that the ice pack is missing. to get the ice, you pretty much have to buy a box, because how much could a store owner charge for the bonus pack?? i mean there's a chance of getting a hall rc in it which is worth 5x the amount of one box of black diamond.

i don't know, i'm confusing myself. haha

[DenJ91]

@ 30ranford - well that was nice of them. ice cards are more valuable than black diamond, i mean i guess he could have charged a few more bucks don't you think? did you get anything good in it?

[RGM81]

I've heard of some stores selling the Ice packs for upwards of $15-$20. Pretty long odds on making it worth your while.

Eberle will be in SPx.

As to whether they're actually RCs, that's a matter up for debate.

[30ranfordfan]

Yeah, I was willing to pay a bit more (I was expecting to hear they wanted $10 or $15 for it). I've spent a fair bit of money there over the last couple of months though, so I'm guessing that might have had something to do with it.

The pack was a bust though. My Rookie was Uxboom :)

@ 30ranford - well that was nice of them. ice cards are more valuable than black diamond, i mean i guess he could have charged a few more bucks don't you think? did you get anything good in it?

[DenJ91]

of course the are rookie cards, they are still the ice premieres just like any other year, still all the same ice product, base, rc's etc, just packed into other boxes because they didn't make a standalone ice product.

i can't imagine why anyone would think otherwise. when you think crosby ice, then stamkos in 08-09, then duchene/tavares 09-10, you will think hall,eberle,seguin in 10-11 just like you will if ice comes back to standalone in 11-12.

my opinion anyway, but you saying there is a debate is the first time i've heard that.

[30ranfordfan]

There's a lot of debate. Honestly, I don't know the answer.... though I would lean towards saying they are not 'true' rookie cards.

Good discussion thread already going on about that here:
https://www.sportscardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1277187

of course the are rookie cards, they are still the ice premieres just like any other year, still all the same ice product, base, rc's etc, just packed into other boxes because they didn't make a standalone ice product.

i can't imagine why anyone would think otherwise. when you think crosby ice, then stamkos in 08-09, then duchene/tavares 09-10, you will think hall,eberle,seguin in 10-11 just like you will if ice comes back to standalone in 11-12.

my opinion anyway, but you saying there is a debate is the first time i've heard that.

[HCC1817]

I never seen one pulled yet.

[DenJ91]

HCC - never see one what pulled? hall/seguin you mean?

and no offense ranford cause i know you aren't necessarily saying they aren't, but to think they aren't true rc's just seems absolutely ridiculous to me. is the tavares/duchene ice premieres true rc's from last year, sure. this year is no different, it's still the same ice product. it's not like it's an update. not a victory update that was out 4 months prior and then they work the newer victory rookies into something else. this is the same ice product that they produced with base cards etc, just decided to stick them in another box to get them because of liscense issues.

i can't even imagine why someone is saying they aren't true rc's. they are absolutely no different than any other year.

[HCC1817]

HCC - never see one what pulled? hall/seguin you mean?

and no offense ranford cause i know you aren't necessarily saying they aren't, but to think they aren't true rc's just seems absolutely ridiculous to me. is the tavares/duchene ice premieres true rc's from last year, sure. this year is no different, it's still the same ice product. it's not like it's an update. not a victory update that was out 4 months prior and then they work the newer victory rookies into something else. this is the same ice product that they produced with base cards etc, just decided to stick them in another box to get them because of liscense issues.

i can't even imagine why someone is saying they aren't true rc's. they are absolutely no different than any other year.

I ment I never saw one of Eberle but I did see someone pull a Hall.