Upper Deck Really HAS Run Out Of Ideas

[30ranfordfan]

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There's lots of legit complaints about Upper Deck. Their business ethics? Since when did business ethics stop us from buying products from Walmart, Gasoline from Exxon / Esso, or anything with a "Made in China" tag on it?

Has Upper Deck made some questionable decisions over the years? Yes. Am I making excuses for them? No. Not trying to. It just has so little to do with their Hockey Cards (and specifically the 09-10 stuff) that I don't care.

If the idea of inserts of Winter Olympians.... figure skaters or otherwise..... really bothers you that much: don't buy the boxes. I'll repeat what I said earlier: I HAVE NO INTEREST IN THESE CARDS. What will I do with any I pull? Stick 'em on eBay and see if I can get a couple of bucks back for them. If Upper Deck wants to include them, why should it bother anyone? They're still going to be inserting 50 YGs, GU Jerseys, Patches, Signature Sensations, Victory Update, Hockey Heroes, Printing Plates, Exclusives, High Gloss, and a whole list of other inserts that appeal to me only slightly more than the figure skating cards.

wow, you all ask for new ideas and ream them when they come up with something. if its not for you; MOVE ON! the celebrity autos idea has been working for them so they've continued along that line. no one complains when you're pulling a Tiger auto out of Champs but god forbid you pull a figure skater. they put baseball skin autos in Sweet Shot too. nifty idea, i liked it. alot of others didn't. so what?

we get it, alot of people don't like UD. alot of people don't like ITG either and think the designs and resale value are inferior compared to UD but you don't see blatent threads for bashing created there.

and get over the Konami and MLB stuff. you guys keep bringing it up like it's a valid point in hockey. let's see UD hasn't counterfeited any hockey cards and are fully licensed to use all images and logos. if you don't collect yugioh or baseball cards, it doesnt' affect you. heck, if you collected baseball cards, you probably don't care anyway. if you really hate UD, that's cool too. just stop buying their prodcuts. a hobby should be something you do to enjoy, not whine about.

[Prime B]

wow, you all ask for new ideas and ream them when they come up with something. if its not for you; MOVE ON! the celebrity autos idea has been working for them so they've continued along that line. no one complains when you're pulling a Tiger auto out of Champs but god forbid you pull a figure skater. they put baseball skin autos in Sweet Shot too. nifty idea, i liked it. alot of others didn't. so what?

we get it, alot of people don't like UD. alot of people don't like ITG either and think the designs and resale value are inferior compared to UD but you don't see blatent threads for bashing created there.

and get over the Konami and MLB stuff. you guys keep bringing it up like it's a valid point in hockey. let's see UD hasn't counterfeited any hockey cards and are fully licensed to use all images and logos. if you don't collect yugioh or baseball cards, it doesnt' affect you. heck, if you collected baseball cards, you probably don't care anyway. if you really hate UD, that's cool too. just stop buying their prodcuts. a hobby should be something you do to enjoy, not whine about.

Kev, are you a stockholder or just trying to get in the DC? I kid, I kid

Seriously, Kevin is right about UD. If you don't like them THAT much, move on, don't bother with their products and collect something else.

They do deserve to be held to a higher standard because they are the sole licensee so I think a certain amount of criticism is fair and justified, but constant bashing will accomplish nothing.

Kev, I do have to disagree with the subjective comment about designs and resale value of ITG.

While I agree with the designs needing to come up a level for ITG (I actually mentioned this to Brian Price on the phone just yesterday!) I would point out that the 08-09 ITG Ultimate 1/1 Jumbo cards might be some of the most highly collectible and sought after cards of the past decade. And the prices back that with many of them smashing sales of most of UD's Cup singles, save for the few dual auto shields with big names.

Just saying............

[SkyFire47]

Kev, I do have to disagree with the subjective comment about designs and resale value of ITG.

While I agree with the designs needing to come up a level for ITG (I actually mentioned this to Brian Price on the phone just yesterday!) I would point out that the 08-09 ITG Ultimate 1/1 Jumbo cards might be some of the most highly collectible and sought after cards of the past decade. And the prices back that with many of them smashing sales of most of UD's Cup singles, save for the few dual auto shields with big names.

Just saying............

i'm actually on the same wave length as you with ITG. they're designs are fine in my eyes but not quite up there yet. ITG had to find a certain niche (prospects and more vintage based) to stay in business and their design reflects that. it is purely subjective as i prefer the more modern look of UD but i was just bringing up some of the common criticisms people have with ITG as an example in my previous post.

you know me though, gimme a nice Lundqvist 1/1 and i don't care who makes it.