BOOO Mike Helton

[jeffgordon]

Most of the Nationwide disputes with Brad involved Cup drivers. With the beef between Logano and Biffle going on - I can see this becoming the next rivalry.

Edwards "paid" back Brad at the right time. Brad had a top 5 car - now look him. One report said that crash cost Brad at least 100 points. Brad is right now 33 in the standings. If he had those 100 points he would be around 24. One more bad race for Brad he could be out of the top 35 and having to qualify for the next race.

Of course Kurt Busch would say the punishment wasn't severe enough. Kurt's a teammate and has to look like he's standing by the Penske team.

good stats. Why don't you see a problem with this? Hypathetically if this happens again maybe to another racer this could cost them a spot in the chase. To me this this is like fixing a race and the chase. If you don't like someone or don't want them to be in the chase, just take them out. That is like them controling the final outcome.

[MCXC1987]

Well if I'm down in a race and really have no chance, and the guy that has had issues with me is doing well...Carl has nothing to lose. Thats exactly when he wants it to happen. And from what i've heard from Kurt...the only reason he wasn't happy with the results was because that was a Penkse machine....he said it 2-3 times after the race, the fact that Mr. Penske has to spend more money now.