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    There are Blacks in UD2 retail. I've opened a ton this year and only pulled 3 total black cards. Two base parallels and one rookie.

    Then the numbers go way up. There's no way to calculate how much retail is out there, but even if you assume the same print run at 1/4 the pull rate, you're looking at 25% more cards.

    Expect 100-150+ copies of these things out there.

    cheers,
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    (PS: Thank you for moving the post)

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    Thanks for the help, guys. I've been considering some Victory Black rookies, but there really seems to be a flood of them right now for some players.

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    I would think Victory Black's would have alot lower print run. Just going by expierence, Jordan Staal has 3 Victory Black's, 07-08, 08-09 and 09-10. I have only ever seen 2 Staal Black's, both were from 08-09. I saw one in another collection and I have the other.....and I paid ALOT to get it!

    It also seems that Black's are always on people's Player Wantlists. I think since it is the lowest low end product out there which means kids buy it or parents buy them for their kids. Either way I'm sure there are Black's in some kids room sitting in a box or lying on the floor of some kid's mom's mini van.

    Most kids wouldn't think that the Black's are "specal".

    Just my opinon.....

    The 06-07, 07-08 and the 08-09 (series 1 only) are all very hard to find. I have only seen one copy from 05-06, 06-07, 07-08 and none from 08-09 for steen. Starting with the 08-09 series 2 they have become FAR more common.

    Also a lot of kids just dont even know that they are considered black ones. There are not a tonne of differences and kids arent looking for the differences.

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    Yeah, I have a michael frolik black rookie from last year's victory. Would anybody be able to get me a brief trade value on this please?

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    Based on those odds, my case break of UD2 STUNK!

    No patches of any sort...

    No HG of any sort...

    Only one Fab Four Fabrics...

    Half the number of stated Exclusives /100 (14)...


    I did, however, pull a Victory Black RC (Evander Kane), as well as a Signature Sensations (I thought they were guaranteed 1/case anyhow) of Darren Helm).




    Still, after spending the bucks, I thought it was lousy! Only 2 non-white swatches on the Game Jerseys as well... BRUUUUTAL.







    ... and I am done b itching about it. =)

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    Ive seen about 4-5 Luca Sbisa Victory Blacks and I have one of them, only cost me about 8 bucks though

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    UD Victory Black RC's ......Question...

    Has anyone run the numbers on the product run to figure out what the Blacks are limited too?

    Thanks, Brian

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    just gonna put these two threads together. The question has been answered.

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    If it was straight from a box of Victory (not UD2), a Victory Black RC would be normally about 1:1440 I think. They used to #/5 in previous years.

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    If it was straight from a box of Victory (not UD2), a Victory Black RC would be normally about 1:1440 I think. They used to #/5 in previous years.

    in 2005-06 only..

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