Are These Autographs Real or Fake?

[patsfan81]

Please help me out, I won these on ebay, but I'm a little reluctant to pay because I don't know whether or not its real. Help

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[asujbl]

Don't buy anything that doesn't have a COA from a place like PSA/DNA, JSA, Tristar, Steiner, MM, UDA etc...

It's worthless without one.

[MCXC1987]

this is just me, but i usually don't even consider it unless it is COA by a big name. And if the seller has lots of signed stuff...i think its even worse....plus wasn't there some crazy stat like 80%+ of autos sold on ebay are fakes...unless its certified by a big market authenticator like the members post above

[patsfan81]

Thanks Guys, I already won the item though, what should I do. Plus, on some of his other autograph items, he gaurantees it will pass authentication by a third party.

[booyahlaw]

I think you gotta pay or you're going to get an unpaid item strike. However, I guess you could contact the seller and see if 1) he will let you back out (which is doubtful without other bidders) and/or 2) see if he will refund them if you send them to a third party grader and they are deemed "questionable authenticity".

Either way, you gambled--whether you won or lost is still up in the air. I would send them off and if they come back authentic, you got two future HOF autos for very cheap. If they are dinged, well you learned a valuable lesson for a relatively small amount of money.

[Joncamburn]

I think you need to pay, you bid on it. If you were worried you should of done the research BEFORE you bid. Just my 2 cents.

[patsfan81]

Well of course, I tried to look into it as much as I could, but the auction was ending and I didn't want to let the possible steals go by...

[patsfan81]

btw what are the consequences of not paying?

[booyahlaw]

I really think your only consequences would be an unpaid item strike from Ebay and the seller can block you from bidding on further items with him (which, given your feelings about the seller's product, may not be too big of a deal to you). If you get a certain number of these in a certain time period, you're banned. I don't know the specifics though.

[FuriousD82]

I've had buyers offer to send me $1-2 for the Listing and FVF fees when they back out of items.. this would be a nice gesture though the item is inexpensive so you might as well just pay and hold on to the item.