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05-29-2010, 12:58 AM #1
THE Hall vs. Seguin thread
I feel we need a thread dedicated to the big debate in the nhl...Taylor or Tyler? Anyone who knows anything about me knows I love Taylor Hall. The kids a stud.
I'll offer an open invitation. Someone please justify taking Tyler over Taylor.
Both put up 106 points this year. Taylor did it in 6 less games.
Taylor made Canadas WJC team. Seguin was one of the first ones cut.
Taylor hall has back to back Memorial cup wins. Seguin has not made it out of the 2nd round. Furthermore, for two consecutive years, Taylors team eliminated Tylers in the 2nd round.
Taylor Hall was twice named Memorial cup MVP. Seguin again...never made it that far. No other player has ever been named Mem cup MCP twice.
Taylor has a full three years of experience in the OHL while Tyler only has two. Taylor has been in 4 international tourneys to Tylers two.
Taylor was named the OHL and CHL rookie of the year.
Taylor has accomplished way more in his short career compared to Seguin. Taylor has racked up 14 awards of all different varieties to Tylers 4. Tyler was not regarded as a top prospect until his hot start this year. Taylor was talked about as the #1 overall pick for this years draft for a few years now.
For all these reasons, I see no way the Oilers pass on Hall. Someone please give me a valid reason why anyone would pick Tyler over Taylor. Let the debate begin!
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05-29-2010, 02:15 AM #2
I really see Hall going in front of Serguin. Its almost like Tavares going in front of Hedmen this year. I just cant see Serguin going first.
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05-29-2010, 08:41 AM #3
To me its obvious that the oilers should pick hall because he has been playing awesome in the OHL for 3 years now and has many awards to show for it. Tyler on the other hand has only had one good year. That kind of reminds me of someone who had a good year (jonathan cheechoo). Im not saying that he will end up like him but it has happened before so if I were the oilers GM I would take a proven player over a one hot season player
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05-29-2010, 08:47 AM #4
I personally think Seguin is better. Hall is on a great team with the Spitfires and Seguin doesn't have the same calibre with him yet still piles up the points.
But the Oilers will benefit a great deal with either.
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05-29-2010, 04:31 PM #5
Okay Hall has a better team. But how is Seguin better? He has less awards, made less international teams, won less, and statistically worse than Hall until they tied this year.
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05-29-2010, 04:36 PM #6
It isn't about points, awards, teams, international pedigree, etc. It's about which player projects to be a better pro. You don't draft a guy just because he leads the OHL in scoring. Do a search sometime and see all the soup cans to hold that honor.
Taylor is seen as more of a "big reward, moderate risk" choice, when measured against Seguin, who is considered steadier and more of a two-way player, like Pavel Datsyuk. There isn't a team in the NHL that wouldn't want Datsyuk. So the argument is a valid one. Hall might be a 100-point guy, but Seguin might be a 90-point guy with Selke skills.
When thought of that way, the choice is a lot tougher.
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05-29-2010, 04:54 PM #7

either way, I Hope it ends up like the Ovechkin/Crosby Rookie of the Year race.....
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05-29-2010, 04:59 PM #8
Personally, I'd take Hall first. That said, since you're looking for justification for Seguin to go number one overall....
Seguin is a right handed centre. Given that PROFESSIONAL scouts have him ahead (just barely) of Hall as a prospect, and given that he is a right handed centre, there is very good reason to take him ahead of a scoring winger.
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05-29-2010, 05:05 PM #9
Look the only reason scouts have Seguin over Hall is because he is a rightie center. Taylor is the bigger name and you can't dispute that. He's the better goal scorer. Theres no way Edmonton passes on him. I'd bet money on it.
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05-29-2010, 05:21 PM #10
Well, judging by combine results, Tyler is in astounding shape (Hes Ripped), Low BF%, High Reps on BP, SU, and PU. They are both great, its a win win either way. It all comes down to needs. Does the Oil want a franchise center or franchise winger? Taylor had a MUCH better team around him, MILES better than Tyler. As Bruins GM Chiarelli said, "the spits could beat half the teams in the AHL". Man, I sound like Im drinking the TS Kool Aid and Im a B's fan who thinks we desperately need Hall.
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