In my opinion, BVs actually slow down the trading process ...

[Qwikflipz]

Lots of discussion! Me likey =P

Haelwho2 - This actually has nothing to do with our trade discussions that wernt meant to be. When I talked to you about how I couldnt do the proposed deal because cash values were too off for me, you didnt get all snickery about it or tell me im crazy for asking for cash values .... it was actually quite refreshing. Two people who just didnt see a way to trade at the time and moved on with no hard feelings or anything like that.

You dont know how many people have tried to trade for my Ward SPA FW Auto Patch /100 at 100BV, and then have given me some rude response because I was asking for the cash value of the card in trade ( which is roughly $90 - $100 )

Another PM has been sent

People need to realize:

Low-end cards, BV is fine

But if it is high-end, cash value is the way to go

[canucksfan007]

I also completely agree with what the others are stating. The world works on cash values. Its just like the stock market, or the housing market ... especially here in the Vancouver area. People 40 years ago selling land didnt sell them for millions because they thought the market could potentially go up, they had to sell it for what current market value was at the time. They had every right to hold onto their possessions until they saw fit to sell it.

Just like cards, you dont have to trade players when they are low, you have every right to hold them for the few years or however long it takes for that player to develop or flop ..... its a risk everyone has to take

[randomhereoh]

People need to realize:

Low-end cards, BV is fine

But if it is high-end, cash value is the way to go

This is what I about to type aswell. Also, I see that the people who shell out $50-200 at times on singles use Ebay value, which makes sense. They dont want lose out on their money spent because Beckett tells you BV is 80.

[fiji00]

The bottom line is cards are only really wworth what people want to pay for them or how hot the player is. The better the player is, the more the card should be worth. AA lot of rookie cards are sold based on hype through media. I agree with you ebay is the best market becasue you get various prices on what people are paying, not from a while back, but recentley.

[fiji00]

And next year, it could drop. When you make a trade/sale. It is about what is happening at this moment.

no its not gonna drop, I guess you don't see that Stamkos is a bonified superrstar. If he doesn't score 40 goals next year I will send you a card with a $200 BV for free. Trust me I know hockey, I really have no idea how your so oblivious to his star quality

[steen101984]

no its not gonna drop, I guess you don't see that Stamkos is a bonified superrstar. If he doesn't score 40 goals next year I will send you a card with a $200 BV for free. Trust me I know hockey, I really have no idea how your so oblivious to his star quality

What happens if he gets hurt next year? Will you still honour that?

[fiji00]

What happens if he gets hurt next year? Will you still honour that?

no, what kind of question is that

If he is healthy, I will send a card w 200 BV no questions asked if he fails 40 G, which he wont

[nelfig]

sorry but i'll have to agree with both parties yeah sure trade at cash values is fine BUT IT HAS TO BE OR SHOULD BE FAIR IN SOME SENSE like gordie howe for a gretzky is understandable but trading for joe smoh for gretzky based on ebay cash sells dont make sense thats why beckett is around for that type of deal now as for beckett not knowing anything well i dont believe that to be true yes they do look at the sale's of any new recent product and compare them all and basically double it it helps us all out in the trading buisness so i always trade per beckett value now ive only done one trade were there was no beckett involed it was just a card i needed NOT WANTED for a card i didnt need and in the end i was happy with it so just to finalize

trade with no beckett if you need the card and to trade with no beckett if your just helping out a fellow collector and that both parties are happy REMEMBER AN EYE FOR AND EYE IS LIKE A GRETZKY FOR A GRETZKY

[30ranfordfan]

on the topic of Beckett Values, I think the problem is that nobody really likes to read the listings correctly. Many people say that BVs are too high..... so when you see a card listed like this:

LO: $10 HI: $20
Multiplier 2.5x - 5x

Everyone jumps up and says "My card is worth $100!" That's not what a listing like that says at all. It says the card sells in a range of $25 - $100.

When we see eBay prices hit the $25 range on this card, lots of people complain that their $100 card is only selling for $25, and Beckett is wrong.

Beckett does not list a single price for a card. It lists a range that a card sells in. The low end of that range is typically what you see eBay pricing at.


As for the speculating type trades that have been talked about.... why not? If My card currently sells for $X, but I think it's more comparable to cards that sell for 30% more...... and that's the sort of card I want to deal it for...... why do you care?

I've said it a few times on threads like these. If you think the other person's trade / sale value is out to lunch, walk away. Don't be mad, get the card elsewhere for the price you think it's worth.

[fdp79]

on the topic of Beckett Values, I think the problem is that nobody really likes to read the listings correctly. Many people say that BVs are too high..... so when you see a card listed like this:

LO: $10 HI: $20
Multiplier 2.5x - 5x

Everyone jumps up and says "My card is worth $100!" That's not what a listing like that says at all. It says the card sells in a range of $25 - $100.

When we see eBay prices hit the $25 range on this card, lots of people complain that their $100 card is only selling for $25, and Beckett is wrong.

Beckett does not list a single price for a card. It lists a range that a card sells in. The low end of that range is typically what you see eBay pricing at.


As for the speculating type trades that have been talked about.... why not? If My card currently sells for $X, but I think it's more comparable to cards that sell for 30% more...... and that's the sort of card I want to deal it for...... why do you care?

I've said it a few times on threads like these. If you think the other person's trade / sale value is out to lunch, walk away. Don't be mad, get the card elsewhere for the price you think it's worth.

thank you!!! and in some cases... the cards actually even sell for less than the low end of bv or more than the high end of bv...prices are dynamic but giving the extremely large quantity of cards coming out...bv is usually a pretty close range with the occasional exception