Crazy Video between Teacher & Student...

[gladdyontherise]

I also wanted to add something that i forgot to mention that i felt was wrong that should be focused on more, this was a male teacher to a female student, i think personally he was trying to scare her, i doubt the same thing takes place if the female student is a male student

[duwal]

I hope you're joking. You think the teacher has the right to throw a desk on the ground in the middle of class and cuss at a student. I'm sure if that happend to your kid you would change your mind real quick.

nope not joking at all. And why would you assume that my opinion would change just if it happened to my kid? If it happened to my kid, then he or she deserved to get talked to like that if they talked to an authority figure like that. Things have gone so politically correct that the teachers powers have been taken away, any time they step out of line they may lose their job, but these young adults that have no respect for the teacher or the class that is being taught can almost run free being disruptive without any repercussions but maybe a detention period

[themanishere]

nope not joking at all. And why would you assume that my opinion would change just if it happened to my kid? If it happened to my kid, then he or she deserved to get talked to like that if they talked to an authority figure like that. Things have gone so politically correct that the teachers powers have been taken away, any time they step out of line they may lose their job, but these young adults that have no respect for the teacher or the class that is being taught can almost run free being disruptive without any repercussions but maybe a detention period

The point isn't about not reprimanding the kids. Its about how its handled.

Teachers should be calm and collected - they're entrusted to teach our kids. Of course from time to time anyone "can" lose his/her temper, but the problem is how its directed. What is supposed to be taught from throwing a desk and shouting obscenities at a student? What is the student really going to learn from that?

Sure, it can be a "reminder about who has authority," but doing it through fear or a display like the teacher in question never works. He should have made a short, clear point without personalizing it for the student. A sentence, not a sermon. Getting in a shouting match, a back-and-forth, or attacking the student's character are the last things he should've (or shouldn't have) done, whether its true or not.

It also isn't about being "politically correct." Its about knowing how to send a message without having to resort to a show of anger or frustration. The best teachers always have control without losing their cool or throwing stuff around.

[doniceage]

The best teachers always have control without losing their cool or throwing stuff around.

One of my favorite teachers in the late 80's threw stuff from time to time. He had a wooden stick and he could inset chalk in it. If someone nodded off or fell a sleep chalk would hit you. He had a uncanny aim with that thing. In my 4 years of having him in high school no kid nor parent ever complained.

Much like in the past parents would let a teacher spank you. Now if they touch a child it wrong. I am from the old school spare the rod spoilt he child. Of course you try to discipline without resorting to that but some kids will keep pushing the buttons until something like this happens.

As another member said I like to see the whole situation from beginning to end.

p.s. Everyone is human and everyone has their boiling point no matter who you are. Should he be ranting like this no but again we only seen a portion of what goind on and I thought we looked at both sides of the story. I can tell you for sure my coaches sure lost their temper once in a while. All motivational speeches to go out and kick some butt.

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[themanishere]

One of my favorite teachers in the late 80's threw stuff from time to time. He had a wooden stick and he could inset chalk in it. If someone nodded off or fell a sleep chalk would hit you. He had a uncanny aim with that thing. In my 4 years of having him in high school no kid nor parent ever complained.

Much like in the past parents would let a teacher spank you. Now if they touch a child it wrong. I am from the old school spare the rod spoilt he child. Of course you try to discipline without resorting to that but some kids will keep pushing the buttons until something like this happens.

This is the problem though. Pure traditionalist ethos in education don't work today. You have to adapt it to the ever-expanding complexities of knowledge, social norms, and the way kids learn. This doesn't make the norms better or worse than "old school" norms...it just means they're the new norms. I don't think most people today feel it is OK to spank kids or hit them with rulers.

It also isn't a matter of throwing out traditional methods altogether or embracing any and all progressive thoughts. You have to set boundaries of authority and control, but you cannot practice or enact them as teachers did in the past. That's where a lot of people are short-sighted in my opinion. Its like trying to run Bear Bryant's exact same offense in today's NFL - it will fail.

The problem is exacerbated by traditional rhetoric and thought-processes in the general public - i.e. "it was fine and no one complained in my day," or "kids are spoiled and need to learn respect for authority." I am not saying that these are not problems. The idea, in terms of how teachers should act, is that the best teachers know how to address the changing style of student learning and educational environment rather than retrofitting old standards. Outbursts and the like may have achieved something in the past, but they really don't today.

Its also reactionary in a sense. In education, the traditionalists say the progressives fail for having outlandish ideas, and the progressives say the traditionalists fail for not adapting to new norms. People see the "new education" today and react to bad situations by saying kids need the old methods to get them in line.

The reality is both ideologies fail for not working together - both extremes have failed time and again when at the reins of the system.

[justinhixson]

nope not joking at all. And why would you assume that my opinion would change just if it happened to my kid? If it happened to my kid, then he or she deserved to get talked to like that if they talked to an authority figure like that. Things have gone so politically correct that the teachers powers have been taken away, any time they step out of line they may lose their job, but these young adults that have no respect for the teacher or the class that is being taught can almost run free being disruptive without any repercussions but maybe a detention period

If a teacher can lose his control and start to throw things and curse at a student who is NOT an adult whose to say that the next time they won't hit the kid. The point is that these are adults and they are supposed to be teaching/supervising kids. If a kid is disrupting class it's not hard to say "hey leave my classroom and go the principals office". But apparently you think it's better to throw a desk and curse at a student. Now who is disrupting the class?

[dfr52]

nope not joking at all. And why would you assume that my opinion would change just if it happened to my kid? If it happened to my kid, then he or she deserved to get talked to like that if they talked to an authority figure like that. Things have gone so politically correct that the teachers powers have been taken away, any time they step out of line they may lose their job, but these young adults that have no respect for the teacher or the class that is being taught can almost run free being disruptive without any repercussions but maybe a detention period

So true. Often students will play their parents against the school staff where they tell their parents they weren't doing something and the parents automatically believe the kids. Situations like this can weaken the control teachers have.

[dfr52]

This is the problem though. Pure traditionalist ethos in education don't work today. You have to adapt it to the ever-expanding complexities of knowledge, social norms, and the way kids learn. This doesn't make the norms better or worse than "old school" norms...it just means they're the new norms. I don't think most people today feel it is OK to spank kids or hit them with rulers.

It also isn't a matter of throwing out traditional methods altogether or embracing any and all progressive thoughts. You have to set boundaries of authority and control, but you cannot practice or enact them as teachers did in the past. That's where a lot of people are short-sighted in my opinion. Its like trying to run Bear Bryant's exact same offense in today's NFL - it will fail.

The problem is exacerbated by traditional rhetoric and thought-processes in the general public - i.e. "it was fine and no one complained in my day," or "kids are spoiled and need to learn respect for authority." I am not saying that these are not problems. The idea, in terms of how teachers should act, is that the best teachers know how to address the changing style of student learning and educational environment rather than retrofitting old standards. Outbursts and the like may have achieved something in the past, but they really don't today.

Its also reactionary in a sense. In education, the traditionalists say the progressives fail for having outlandish ideas, and the progressives say the traditionalists fail for not adapting to new norms. People see the "new education" today and react to bad situations by saying kids need the old methods to get them in line.

The reality is both ideologies fail for not working together - both extremes have failed time and again when at the reins of the system.

I agree, but the bottom line is that parents need to be the ones that role model the right behaviors and discipline their children when they get out of line Not just those in education.

[Nicnac]

no wonder we have a shortage of teachers... they can't even have a bad day without it being filmed and broadcast nationwide...

[INTIMADATOR2007]

I would pay a visit to the teacher after school .And Kick his you know what ...I don't even talk to my child that way and he sure in the crap wouldn't .. She should have punched him in the nose , ..Lol... Totally uncalled for .. probalbly on the verg of Child abuse with the trowing of the chair ...If an average parent does that in front of the wrong people , The police will press charges if there called ..He should loose his job at the least .....