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12-27-2010, 02:30 PM #21
couldnt agree more, before this year I had thought of Ovechkin as slightly better then Crosby. Now I realize Crosby can be put in his own league. With a 24 game point streak (even though he got very lucky to make it too 24 if anyone saw the goal last night) he seems to be THE best player in the NHL today. Do I think he will pass Gretzky's records, no. But I think he will make it quite high up in the leaderboards
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12-27-2010, 02:38 PM #22
Honestly, as much as it hurts
, NO ONE will beat Gretzky's point total. Not Ovie. Not Crosby. Not Anyone.
That being said, I believe this season is very good evidence to support the fact that Crosby > Ovechkin.
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12-27-2010, 03:13 PM #23
Ovechkin is a great player and fun to watch.But Crosby is the best all around player that there is right now.He has to be one of the hardest working players that works at all aspects of the game(faceoffs,defensive play and so on).I doubt that anyone will ever get close to Gretzky's records.The game is so much different now.Goalies are so much better and the players are so much faster and bigger now.
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12-27-2010, 03:16 PM #24
Crosby has definitely stepped it up this season, I wonder if he can continue at this pace for the remainder of the season and move to another level(if there is one) next season.
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12-27-2010, 08:15 PM #25
I agree, I think Crosby puts in the work ethic and has the determination to want to be the best guy all around in the league. First few years was great but when Ovechkin took over people said that he was the best goal scorer and Crosby was more of a passer. What happens the next year? Crosby comes out firing and leads the league in goals. Now he's doing even better this year and his shooting percentage overall for his career is among one of the league highest
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12-27-2010, 09:01 PM #26
Wow, I never saw that one coming from the RUSSIANRocket.
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12-27-2010, 10:10 PM #27

I agree - He will end up in this area of stats.....
True That!
Ovechkin will not hit Gretzky Goal Record - He is a great goal scorer but I dont think he will come close to Gretzky
True That!
A little Bias dont you think....I would hardly think people think Ovechkin is garbage player....even next to Crosby
Crosby is beating Ovechkin this year....Crosby is better THIS YEAR
09-10 Ovechkin had same amount of points in 9 less games, 1 less goal
08-09 Ovechkin beat Crosby 110-103
07-08 Ovechkin played 29 more games than crosby so the 112-72 has no effect in who was better
06-07 Crosby beat Ovechkin in 2 less games 120-92
05-06 Ovechkin beat Crosby 106-102 and won Calder
Ovechkin has 282 goals (only once under 50 goals) in 5 1/2 seasons to Crosby's 213 (only once over 50 goals)
These guys are "ELITE" - BOTH have played outstanding since they entered the NHL. Crosby is the Poster Boy for the NHL....Ovechkin is Human Highlight Reel.....These guys are GREAT for the Sport - Look how they are pumping up the Winter Classic....A FREAKIN regular season match up.....and its like they are playing one on one in the Stanley Cup playoffs - even have them on HBO....
I am going to say Crosby is lighting it up this year - NO DOUBT! He is showing that he is the Best in this league right now.....I am also going to say that Ovechkin is going through a rough patch and it will be interesting to see how he deals with it.......but to say Ovechkin is Garbage.....THAT is sharing what you see in your Rosey Crosby Glasses.....
Sounds like your downplaying what Gretzky accomplished in his career -
He had vision like no other...he made those around him better - ALL OF THEM!!! Greztky more than doubled the 2nd highest point player on the Oilers in the 80s....Look at Kurri and Messier stats -they got better as the years went on......Granato and Sandstrom wouldnt even be pt/game players without Gretzky......
As for Crosby's linemates....THAT is coaching...and drafting/trading/signing players. Pittsburgh had top 5 pick 5 years in a row - they got some really good players....so why is he playing with Dupius and Kunitz? (maybe because they cant afford any more great players due to Crosby/Malkin/Staal/Fleury Salary) - So Crosby has to make Kunitz/Dupuis into Kurri/Anderson....
And you know why no one hacked at Gretzky like they do Crosby???? Because they knew if they did, they would pay a price they didnt want to pay.....If Crosby gets hacked all the time, maybe the Pens should invest in an enforcer that actually scares people......
As for elite scoring 130 every year, this is true - some of the elite were getting 130/year BUT no one except Gretzky and Super Mario scored more than 155 (total of 13 times) and not even Super Mario hit the 200 mark....which Gretzky did 4 times......70+ points more than the elites were scoring.....Can Crosby score 70+ pts more than the elites today? AND do it year after year? If so, then he can be compared somewhere in the Arena with Gretzky
Were goalies as bad as you state? Maybe but think about the size of the Pads, the size of the goalies playing today - most are about 5-6 inches taller than back then - the pads are much bigger - the training & equipment is much better - Everything about the game is better from a player standpoint
NO ONE will beat Gretzky's records in today's game....Not Crosby...Not Ovechkin
And for not seeing another Ovechkin or Crosby in the next 10-15 years.....maybe you heard of a little guy named S T E V E N S T A M K O S - I think he has escalated his game to be right there in the mix
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