First Panini Limited Shield pulled

[ComancheKeen]

Barrie you do bring up a good point about the cost of changing or adding a new design. No doubt it would be a lot of time and money spent for small details. Personally I would prefer this product to be a little more polished, fewer redemptions, and have a later release date but I can nit-pick for days about every single product out there.

Vintage Pucks - Amazing, Manufacturers Mark - Amazing, but if I were a guy who liked to collect rookies I wouldn't touch this stuff with a thirty-nine-and-a-half-foot pole because of the lack of live rookies and collation issues I've seen in case breaks. I can't wait to try and pick up a nice card of two from this product, but as for breaking it I'll stick with Certified until something else is released. When I hear about 3 redemptions in one pack I turn and run the other way.

I think its great that there are some shield cards out there in December for collectors to chase. I still think UD's latest shield cards from Ultimate and The Cup look significantly better than these regardless of what month they were released. This is Panini's first stab at them and who knows, I might change my tune by the end of the release year, but I still think Panini has some ground to make up in that department.

So far this season I feel Panini has brought some tremendous cards to the table, and some very weak cards as well, no real middle ground. I'm hoping that will change in the new year.

[HCC1817]

Oh I saw the guy pull it on Hobby Insider too lol

[roy.the.greatest]

I still think UD's latest shield cards from Ultimate and The Cup look significantly better than these regardless of what month they were released.

Looking better or not, it is always a bidding war on eBay (or a competition to make an offline deal...) to get a Shield card of the popular players.

[cathaytrader]

Prime B,

I like a lot of what Panini does. I'm not a big fan of some of the Cup stuff either. For high end stuff like this I expect more out of the card itself. Panini is adapting to the learning curve but they shouldn't be immune from criticism just because they're new.

I'd jsut like to see design improvement. For the records I think Crown Royale will be Panini's "crowning" achievement (no pun intended) as those cards have the msot thought in terms of design put into them. For limited I just feel that the cards lack that umph for a one pack per box product whereas the designs for Crown Royale look like they are more reminiscient of a top end product.

I couldn't agree with you more. This particular Overchkin card is downright ugly.

[ComancheKeen]

Looking better or not, it is always a bidding war on eBay (or a competition to make an offline deal...) to get a Shield card of the popular players.

Of course there is always a bidding war, but that isn't the point I'm trying to make. I never said shield cards don't have competition between collectors and I never said they didn't have value or collectibility. I said its great for collectors to have shields to go after in December...

Let me rephrase.

If I'm a player collector and I can afford to put my hard earned dollars towards only one of these cards, I choose Upper Deck because its a better looking card at this point in time. Thats my opinion and it won't change until Panini shows me otherwise.

[roy.the.greatest]

Of course there is always a bidding war, but that isn't the point I'm trying to make. I never said shield cards don't have competition between collectors and I never said they didn't have value or collectibility. I said its great for collectors to have shields to go after in December...

Let me rephrase.

If I'm a player collector and I can afford to put my hard earned dollars towards only one of these cards, I choose Upper Deck because its a better looking card at this point in time. Thats my opinion and it won't change until Panini shows me otherwise.

I agree I also prefer the ones from Ultimate or The Cup if I would only have to select one. But I feel it is a step ahead of ITG comparatively to shields they have made, so an in-between ITG and UD.

[jonpop]

You have to plan in advance when you do die cuts across various design print pieces if they are going to be standard. Simple. That's not a fairness issue that's thinking ahead issues. Still looks like "Gun to the head, get it out fast"" design to me. You can get stuff out earlier, but does it look any better than an UD shield because they added a little foil on it? Not in this case.

[JoexBondo]

Regardless of the look, its sweet to see a shield card in December, cant argue with that!

[mugatu471]

I think I may be the only one who likes the design...

[roy.the.greatest]

I think I may be the only one who likes the design...

Absolutely not... someone can prefer UD's design for shield card, however as myself I find this design okay (far from the best but okay). Well, superior to many designs of some ITG cards even if I know ITG tries also the best for their products.