Stolen: Patrick Roy Auto Shield 1/1

[roy.the.greatest]

They would be available for cheaper if the people who owned them weren't so scared about how much they would lose. Money trumps all, and nobody, no matter how wealthy they are, wants to take a big loss. You lost a Roy/Brodeur at $10,000, but now there is one sitting on EBay at $4000 untouched. Current and future releases devalue all past releases too.

That is an error to compare a 2005-06 Roy/Brodeur card sold over $10K with a 2009-10 Roy/Brodeur unsold at $4K. Design is different, card condition of the newest ones are these days very problematic (hard to kind in mint+ condition), and many other aspect affect the value of each card. Simply a nice player photo instead of a head shot photo can generate more "buzz" in the hobby demand for a card. Every spring at the Toronto Expo we are maybe only 2 or 3 collectors willing to drop that much on this kind of card; so it is normal when a dealer is looking to sell a Patrick Roy NHL Shields Auto card to the general audience that he will never get what the Roy collectors will normally pay on that card. It is like trying to sell a $50K Mercedes car to employees of a small company with an auction starting at $1... you will never sell it for over $20K even if it worth $50K. A very bad idea to sell a very valuable card to the general audience, you need to be patient, you need to find/contact the collectors interested in this kind of card.

[Phoenix]

That is an error to compare a 2005-06 Roy/Brodeur card sold over $10K with a 2009-10 Roy/Brodeur unsold at $4K. Design is different, card condition of the newest ones are these days very problematic (hard to kind in mint+ condition), and many other aspect affect the value of each card. Simply a nice player photo instead of a head shot photo can generate more "buzz" in the hobby demand for a card. Every spring at the Toronto Expo we are maybe only 2 or 3 collectors willing to drop that much on this kind of card; so it is normal when a dealer is looking to sell a Patrick Roy NHL Shields Auto card to the general audience that he will never get what the Roy collectors will normally pay on that card. It is like trying to sell a $50K Mercedes car to employees of a small company with an auction starting at $1... you will never sell it for over $20K even if it worth $50K. A very bad idea to sell a very valuable card to the general audience, you need to be patient, you need to find/contact the collectors interested in this kind of card.

So what happens when one of those collectors is part of the general audience? I'm not saying all Roy collectors watch Ebay, because I know they don't, but why wouldn't the few that do not take the oppotunity to grab either of those cards and a price less than what they would normally pay? It just seems rather naive.

[jonpop]

So what happens when one of those collectors is part of the general audience? I'm not saying all Roy collectors watch Ebay, because I know they don't, but why wouldn't the few that do not take the oppotunity to grab either of those cards and a price less than what they would normally pay? It just seems rather naive.

Have to agree with this. People with money are not fools and believe me, if I walked up to them with a shield card and said " Give me 2 grand for this 2006 Roy shield card" they would go and do some homework before they ran to the nearest interac machine. That's why they have disposable income.

If you believe different your in a pipe dream.

[jonpop]

So what happens when one of those collectors is part of the general audience? I'm not saying all Roy collectors watch Ebay, because I know they don't, but why wouldn't the few that do not take the oppotunity to grab either of those cards and a price less than what they would normally pay? It just seems rather naive.

Have to agree with this. People with money are not fools and believe me, if I walked up to them with a shield card and said " Give me 2 grand for this 2003 Roy shield card" they would go and do some homework before they ran to the nearest interac machine. That's why they have disposable income.

The longer you keep those cards in your closet the less they are worth. Nobody cares about Patrick Roy or Brodeur much anymore. It sucks but it's probably true. I'd sell them fast because the shield market is dropping.

If you believe different your in a pipe dream.

[roy.the.greatest]

Have to agree with this. People with money are not fools and believe me, if I walked up to them with a shield card and said " Give me 2 grand for this 2003 Roy shield card" they would go and do some homework before they ran to the nearest interac machine. That's why they have disposable income.

The longer you keep those cards in your closet the less they are worth. Nobody cares about Patrick Roy or Brodeur much anymore. It sucks but it's probably true. I'd sell them fast because the shield market is dropping.

If you believe different your in a pipe dream.

Your example is pure fiction. Of course the majority of actual collectors (10-20 years old, teenagers) care less about Patrick Roy, they didn't see this goalie on ice, but a lot of 30-40 years old collectors care about Patrick Roy (and 30-40 years old collectors can spend more than teenagers). I don't know what do you constantly have against collectors with big wallet collecting expensive cards, but people collecting this kind of card are simply not like you. Respect them instead of bashing them.

[centrehice]

The longer you keep those cards in your closet the less they are worth.
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Other than a Bobby Orr 1966 Topps RC or a Ken Dryden 71-72 OPC RC this is a fact.

Those 1/1 Shields that people are paying 2500.00 for. You will never see your ROI as the years go by as already kids coming up never saw Patrick Roy play, so they don't give a damn about him.

It's just a matter of time that his cards become unpopular. That's just the way things go.

[roy.the.greatest]

The longer you keep those cards in your closet the less they are worth.
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Other than a Bobby Orr 1966 Topps RC or a Ken Dryden 71-72 OPC RC this is a fact.

Those 1/1 Shields that people are paying 2500.00 for. You will never see your ROI as the years go by as already kids coming up never saw Patrick Roy play, so they don't give a damn about him.

It's just a matter of time that his cards become unpopular. That's just the way things go.

That's why selling cards like that on eBay is a very bad idea, unless you really need money fast. Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy... they will all become unpopular to the eyes of most collectors in a decade or two. If those 1/1 cards worth nothing, imagine the value of rest... so the bottom line is to collect what you like guys. Also, don't save money to buy a nice expensive car, your car will be scrap in 10-15 years and will worth $0!

[SkyFire47]

i wish Lundqvist Shields were getting cheaper rather than doubling...

wait, nevermind. i've paid more than some of the recent ones sold.

[bccwolvesrule44]

Every time I see this I believe the card was actually stolen...lmao

[Orfew]

The longer you keep those cards in your closet the less they are worth.
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Other than a Bobby Orr 1966 Topps RC or a Ken Dryden 71-72 OPC RC this is a fact.

Those 1/1 Shields that people are paying 2500.00 for. You will never see your ROI as the years go by as already kids coming up never saw Patrick Roy play, so they don't give a damn about him.

It's just a matter of time that his cards become unpopular. That's just the way things go.

Yes indeed. If you collect vintage and are willing to hang onto them for a long time, you will see the value increase. The supply of vintage is very limited. This is especially true of pre war cards. As time goes by the supply will be even more limited.