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[pwaldo]

There really wasn't a problem with DB winning the Royal Rumble. He could have but after Brock just destroyed Cena and that other guy from the Shield and looked incredibly strong doing so having him face DB would have made no sense unless he squashed him in a matter of seconds.

Once Lesnar won his match a light bulb should have gone off in your head that would have narrowed who was going to actually win the RR. Before that Lesnar match you could have had DB win the Rumble and have a good storyline going but after it I would have bet almost all my money on Reigns to win it.

Also the sin wasn't having Reigns win (I don't like him or DB) but having the rest of the Rumble being atrocious was. That was one of the worst RR ever and having DB or whoever the fans wanted to win it win instead wasn't going to make it any better. It was booked awful and when you have a scripted program there is no reason to have down time or boring stretches. YOU FREAKING PRE PLAN THIS STUFF so it should be good and not looking like it was rushed garbage. Seriously I could have wrote a better RR with 24 hours notice than what "professionals" did and I don't even watch their program or know who everyone is.

[ajcorleone]

New Lana MAxim shoot

[Zeppelin1985]

There's a lot of dislike towards the 2015 Royal Rumble Match, you have

A) Fans pissed off that Daniel Bryan didn't win.
B) Fans pissed off that Roman Reigns won because he's sub-par on the mic, not good in the ring and/or maybe because he's been handpicked by Vince or Trips or whomever as the E's next "golden boy".
C) Fans pissed because the Royal Rumble Match was booked as if it was THE FIRST ever Royal Rumble Match and was probably booked by Mike Adamle.

As I've stated in numerous posts after the Rumble PPV, I fall into that "C" category. I don't mind Reigns won but rather the manner in which he won. Dean Ambrose was in the final four, well TECHNICALLY he actually wasn't since Rusev was still there (how awful) but even if Dean Ambrose had won...I'd STILL be pissed at the way the Rumble was booked. This Rumble could have been eons better, it had SUCH potential to be an all-time classic and it failed...BIG TIME, IMO. It doesn't even matter who won, I would still be upset with the way it was booked. Absolute crap.

[pwaldo]

New Lana MAxim shoot

New? Looks like something I've seen from her before but I'm not complaining. There are nude pictures she did from a shoot on the Internet as well. I'd post them here but obviously they are against the rules so I can't.

[ajcorleone]

More Rumble complaints


As noted, Titus O’Neil’s four second elimination at the WWE Royal Rumble match this past Sunday night was supposed to be a one second elimination to tie Santino Marella as the shortest Rumble reign in history. Due to a timing issue between O’Neil, Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns, he wasn’t eliminated until the four second mark. Vince McMahon was said to be furious over the mistake, as it was the only spot in the match that was supposed to be timed perfectly.
Speaking of the Rumble match, WWE contacted Chris Jericho on January 19th about being a surprise entrant in the match, however he declined the offer. Jericho is working some non-televised live events for WWE lately, but doesn’t want to return on-camera unless it has meaning and value behind it.

[Thrillseeker]

There really wasn't a problem with DB winning the Royal Rumble. He could have but after Brock just destroyed Cena and that other guy from the Shield and looked incredibly strong doing so having him face DB would have made no sense unless he squashed him in a matter of seconds.

Once Lesnar won his match a light bulb should have gone off in your head that would have narrowed who was going to actually win the RR. Before that Lesnar match you could have had DB win the Rumble and have a good storyline going but after it I would have bet almost all my money on Reigns to win it.

I actually never thought Bryan was winning the rumble. I think it was painfully obvious that Reigns was going to win. But a Lesnar/Bryan match would have been worlds better than this Lesnar/Reigns match. He wouldn't have had to squash Bryan. Did you see the Eddie Guerrero/Lesnar match from years ago? If so then you know smaller guys can wrestle against Lesnar and do fine. And there is no better wrestler than Bryan anywhere in the US or Japan. I think the David vs Goliath build up would have been better than what we'll get. And then you could have had Bryan beat Lesnar and rub it in the Authorities face, since Rollins couldn't do. Anyway It's not happening now which sucks, but I'll find it funny if all the fans cheer "Daniel Bryan!" or if they just cheer Lesnar and boo Reigns at Mania. Vince will be pissed that his chosen one was crapped on by the fans. lol

[ajcorleone]

Alberto has really slammed WWE

Alberto El Patron was a guest on Pro Wrestling Illustrated‘s new podcast this week and spoke in-depth about why WWE wrestlers are “terrified” about rocking the boat. He also explained why he decided to sign with Lucha Underground instead of TNA. Here are the highlights:
Why He Chose Lucha Underground Over TNA:
“I don’t have anything but respect for TNA. They made a really good offer to me, and I’m really grateful for that. The reason I didn’t go there is because those guys at Lucha Underground helped me in all my legal proceedings against WWE. So I owed them that. It was not a matter of not wanting to go to TNA. It’s just that Lucha Underground and AAA, they paid for my legal services. They introduced me to my lawyer. And the reason I’m working right now is because of them. WWE wanted me to stop working in the United States for a year. And that was going to happen if it wasn’t for these guys. I’m a stand up guy. If you help me, I’ll return the favor one day. That’s what I’m doing with them. Plus, they made me a good offer.”
Why WWE Wrestlers Are Terrified:
“Now everybody’s talking about how passionate I am when I’m doing my promos in Ring of Honor and the House of Hardcore in Philly and all those other places. And all I can say is that you can feel the passion and the love because that’s who I am. That’s me. That’s the real Alberto. In the other place, I never said anything because I wanted to. And if, for some reason, I changed one line, they were all mad and would be fining me. So people need to understand, when you work for that place, you are like a robot. You need to do exactly what they say and how they say it … You could get fined over everything … Everybody is terrified. We all were—or they are—terrified of changing something or trying something new. Of course there are some exceptions who can do and say whatever they want. But that rule doesn’t apply to 90 percent of the wrestlers. ”
Alberto said he’s currently making as much money as he was during “good years” in WWE.

[pwaldo]

I actually never thought Bryan was winning the rumble. I think it was painfully obvious that Reigns was going to win. But a Lesnar/Bryan match would have been worlds better than this Lesnar/Reigns match. He wouldn't have had to squash Bryan. Did you see the Eddie Guerrero/Lesnar match from years ago? If so then you know smaller guys can wrestle against Lesnar and do fine. And there is no better wrestler than Bryan anywhere in the US or Japan. I think the David vs Goliath build up would have been better than what we'll get. And then you could have had Bryan beat Lesnar and rub it in the Authorities face, since Rollins couldn't do. Anyway It's not happening now which sucks, but I'll find it funny if all the fans cheer "Daniel Bryan!" or if they just cheer Lesnar and boo Reigns at Mania. Vince will be pissed that his chosen one was crapped on by the fans. lol

No doubt they could put on a good match but story line wise it wouldn't work. Brock just destroyed John Cena and other guy while bouncing out of finishers left and right. Hitting him in the head with a briefcase repeatedly did nothing. He gets smashed through everything and he still gets up and wins. And this is after beating Undertaker's streak. Seeing DB coming back from surgery and beating him wouldn't work story wise or it would be one of the biggest upsets of all time. Either way the WWF wants to make Reigns their next Cena and by having him stop Lesner after winning the Royal Rumble they think will do the trick. Then have him face some heels afterward. That's pretty much how they want it.

See this is probably where the wrestlers suffer with something like WCW not existing. If it did the WWF would be forced to give DB something because he's by far the most over guy going right now. If they treated him like this when there was WCW he would just jump ship and become WCW's #1 guy then. With no competition Vince can force anybody they want down the throats of the fans and the fans and wrestlers can't really do anything about it. It seems pretty clear after these past two Royal Rumbles that guys who they want to win the RR will and the fans aren't going to sway them one bit no matter how loud or long they boo.

[Thrillseeker]

It seems pretty clear after these past two Royal Rumbles that guys who they want to win the RR will and the fans aren't going to sway them one bit no matter how loud or long they boo.

True Batista did win the Rumble last year. But I'd argue that the fans did force them to change the Wrestlemania main event with their booing and support or Bryan. Because I don't buy for a minute that they were going to push Bryan to the title the entire time. The fans forced that on them. Imagine if they stayed with the Orton vs Batista Title match last year. The crowd would have killed it, and I do think it would have drove some fans away. But I do agree that not really having other places to go is really hurting the wrestling business. I dont know if guys see TNA or ROH as places they can go if they want to keep making a good living.

[pwaldo]