War #3

[limitedplay50]

we should be protecting our borders not Frances.
Since when does the United States military take its marching orders from FRANCE?????????????

[Star_Cards]

I'm not sure how I feel about this right now. I am one to agree that we need to get out of conflicts such a iraq and afghanistan as of how they have ended up over the last eight years. I was okay with the initial conflict/war in afghanistan, but the amount of time the U.S. has had troops there makes me feel they should be home by now.

That said, I'm proud that we can be a country that can help protect l Libya's people from being killed by their own leader. I guess at this point I think it just depends on what course is taken with the conflict on how I will ultimately feel. While I'm okay with the U.S. taking a stance on the issue I don't think I would be okay with ground troops going into Libya.

As far as this being war #3, I don't think this will ultimately end up being to the same degree as what we've had in Iraq or Afghanistan. I could be wrong but that is just my feeling.

[duane1969]

America backs terrorism as well, America put people like Augusto Pinochet into power and look at what he did to his people.

I think we have different opinions on the term "backing terrorist". Because you help put someone in power and they turn out to be a bad person does not make you a supporter of terrorism.

Also, the CIA helped support Pinochet after the coup. They did not play a role in the coup. So by definition, the US did not put him in power either.

[INTIMADATOR2007]

I'm not sure how I feel about this right now. I am one to agree that we need to get out of conflicts such a iraq and afghanistan as of how they have ended up over the last eight years. I was okay with the initial conflict/war in afghanistan, but the amount of time the U.S. has had troops there makes me feel they should be home by now.


If our leaders would treat it as a war it would have taken us about 6 months to end these wars , We are the superpower why not use it to it's full extent , Wars are no supposed to be nice .

[sanfran22]

I'm not sure how I feel about this right now. I am one to agree that we need to get out of conflicts such a iraq and afghanistan as of how they have ended up over the last eight years. I was okay with the initial conflict/war in afghanistan, but the amount of time the U.S. has had troops there makes me feel they should be home by now.


If our leaders would treat it as a war it would have taken us about 6 months to end these wars , We are the superpower why not use it to it's full extent , Wars are no supposed to be nice .

This is where I'd be. We don't fight wars anymore. We fight politically correct, media driven wars now....

[TheTGB]

Hard to bomb them if you can't find them. Gadaffi is a terrorist though, he ok'd the Lockerbie jet bombing, he funded the IRA and provided them with arms and ammunition.

Truer words have never been said.

While I agree that we should be worrying more about ourselves, helping to prevent mass genocide of the anti-Gadaffi people is something that SOMEONE needs to help those mostly defenseless people.

Note: While the term genocide is not definitively correct for that statement, I believe that the international law against genocide should include those of political beliefs as well, as originally intended when genocide was included in international law but was not added for diplomatic compromise.

[Hairylemon]

This is where I'd be. We don't fight wars anymore. We fight politically correct, media driven wars now....

When you don't know who is the enemy and who is the friendly it makes fighting a conventional war impossible. In Iraq and Afghanistan the enemy is not wearing a uniform, so how does the average soldier know who is who?

[pghin08]

When you don't know who is the enemy and who is the friendly it makes fighting a conventional war impossible. In Iraq and Afghanistan the enemy is not wearing a uniform, so how does the average soldier know who is who?

Spot on. The concept of "conventional war" is dead. For the foreseeable future, conflicts will be like this. War as our grandparents knew it doesn't exist in this world.

[Star_Cards]

I'm not sure how I feel about this right now. I am one to agree that we need to get out of conflicts such a iraq and afghanistan as of how they have ended up over the last eight years. I was okay with the initial conflict/war in afghanistan, but the amount of time the U.S. has had troops there makes me feel they should be home by now.


If our leaders would treat it as a war it would have taken us about 6 months to end these wars , We are the superpower why not use it to it's full extent , Wars are no supposed to be nice .

Well given that these wars are less against another countries and more against unmarked opponents I can see where our leaders don't really want to be less "nice" and take out large numbers of civilians that live in these countries. I agree that when the U.S. fought against actual other military forces (gulf war and the initial invasion in the current iraq war) they've proven to be able top handle business quite fast, but the wars that are going on now are way more surgical. I don't think they should be treated as wars where one could just go in and wipe out everything.

[duane1969]

A good start would be declaring marshall law when we take over and outlaw the carrying of weapons. I have always said that the #1 reason we failed in the early months of Iraq was because the good guys and the bad guys were all standing around holding AK-47s and grenade launchers. If you outlaw carrying weapons then it's a little easier to identify the enemy since they will be the ones with guns.

Maybe that is a little to simplistic for our government tho