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    A good start would be declaring marshall law when we take over and outlaw the carrying of weapons. I have always said that the #1 reason we failed in the early months of Iraq was because the good guys and the bad guys were all standing around holding AK-47s and grenade launchers. If you outlaw carrying weapons then it's a little easier to identify the enemy since they will be the ones with guns.

    Maybe that is a little to simplistic for our government tho

    Exactly...I mean, come on. The mindset of a few in this post shows the problem we have.

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    Exactly...I mean, come on. The mindset of a few in this post shows the problem we have.

    curious what mindset shows a reason for the problem?

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    curious what mindset shows a reason for the problem?

    The one that doesn't allow us to win. The one that says we can't identify the enemy when we can take steps to deal with that. The one that doesn't allow us to go hard to win because we may make someone not like us. The one where you have to ask permission to shoot.
    Go in, go hard, and deal with it. If you can't or aren't willing to do that, then get out and let them deal with the consequences.

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    The one that doesn't allow us to win. The one that says we can't identify the enemy when we can take steps to deal with that. The one that doesn't allow us to go hard to win because we may make someone not like us. The one where you have to ask permission to shoot.
    Go in, go hard, and deal with it. If you can't or aren't willing to do that, then get out and let them deal with the consequences.

    Can you please tell me what a "WIN" is in each of these three "WARS"? I'm curious to know, because I don't think that the military leaders or the politicians can define a "win".

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    Can you please tell me what a "WIN" is in each of these three "WARS"? I'm curious to know, because I don't think that the military leaders or the politicians can define a "win".

    There is no victory, no win, no glory when it comes to war

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    The one that doesn't allow us to win. The one that says we can't identify the enemy when we can take steps to deal with that. The one that doesn't allow us to go hard to win because we may make someone not like us. The one where you have to ask permission to shoot.
    Go in, go hard, and deal with it. If you can't or aren't willing to do that, then get out and let them deal with the consequences.

    My thoughts are when you have enemies mixing in with non enemies who decides where exactly to go in hard and deal with it? Is it okay to go in and roll over whoever and whatever is in your way as you move across a country?

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    There is no victory, no win, no glory when it comes to war

    My point, exactly!!

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    The one that doesn't allow us to win. The one that says we can't identify the enemy when we can take steps to deal with that. The one that doesn't allow us to go hard to win because we may make someone not like us. The one where you have to ask permission to shoot.
    Go in, go hard, and deal with it. If you can't or aren't willing to do that, then get out and let them deal with the consequences.

    I could be wrong here, but it seems like you are advocating wiping out innocents just to get to the bad guy. As for declaring martial law when "we take over", how is this even possible when "we" don't run the country "we" invaded.

    Looks like the US Armed Forces have taken your advice. Headline from a UK newspaper.
    U.S. rescue chopper SHOOTS six friendly Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed Air Force jet
    Last edited by Hairylemon; 03-22-2011 at 09:52 PM.

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    I could be wrong here, but it seems like you are advocating wiping out innocents just to get to the bad guy. As for declaring martial law when "we take over", how is this even possible when "we" don't run the country "we" invaded.

    Had we not declared "victory" and instead declared marshall law then we would have been in effect, taking over. We never took over Iraq because the goal was never to take control but to simply oust Saddam. The same is occuring in Libya now. No one plans to take over, they are just putting our troops in harms way to try and overthrow a dictator.

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    I could be wrong here, but it seems like you are advocating wiping out innocents just to get to the bad guy. As for declaring martial law when "we take over", how is this even possible when "we" don't run the country "we" invaded.

    Looks like the US Armed Forces have taken your advice. Headline from a UK newspaper.
    U.S. rescue chopper SHOOTS six friendly Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed Air Force jet

    For some reason your article would not come up but I think it is a little wrong based on the headline.. The chopper fired some small artilery shells between the downed pilot and the villagers because no one knew if they were friendly or enemies. The 6 that were injured were hit by shrapnal from the shells.... It is my understanding no one was killed by this action but I honestly could be wrong.... It is just that headline makes it sound like the copter was unloading on the villagers which is not true

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