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    I am not saying that the left is "trying" to let the Muslims take over. They are merely unintentionally (most of them at least) making their ability to do so easier.

    I know that you are young and naive (I was at your age too), but as you grow older, you will see the clear evidence of the left's disdain for the Christian religion, because they see its principles as a threat to their agenda. These are not talking points. This is what I see.

    Like I was saying in another thread, the American Revolution is the only significant revolution in history where the people who started it were the ones who finished it. The most organized group always comes out on top of revolutions, and most of the time with very bad consequences.

    I am not asking people to be tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists. They just need to be educated on the reality of the threat that exists. Most people are not.

    Thank you for saying what I've been trying to say but in a very to- the- point way.....

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    I am not saying that the left is "trying" to let the Muslims take over. They are merely unintentionally (most of them at least) making their ability to do so easier.

    I know that you are young and naive (I was at your age too), but as you grow older, you will see the clear evidence of the left's disdain for the Christian religion, because they see its principles as a threat to their agenda. These are not talking points. This is what I see.

    Like I was saying in another thread, the American Revolution is the only significant revolution in history where the people who started it were the ones who finished it. The most organized group always comes out on top of revolutions, and most of the time with very bad consequences.

    I am not asking people to be tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists. They just need to be educated on the reality of the threat that exists. Most people are not.

    Please explain the bolded part.

    And like I said, we're not too far off on the Arab revolutions. You're absolutely right, those who are organized come out on top. It's just too soon to judge that. We probably won't truly know the answer for decades.

    I don't think you need to tell the general public at this point that Muslim extremist groups are scary. If you were alive in America for the last decade, you already think this.

    Let me attempt to bring this full-circle. This thread was originally about Glenn Beck, so let me quote what I said about him before:

    I used to tune into Beck's show at least once or twice a week when he was on CNN and Fox. I will say this about the man, he believes what he says. He's not the least bit disingenuous.

    He is, however, a nutjob. He is Joseph McCarthy reincarnated. His fear of anything different than himself pervades his every thought and completely skews his worldview. Remember, this is once a guy who asked Keith Ellison, a Muslim Congressman (I'm paraphrasing here) "I like Muslims, but prove to me that you aren't working with our enemies". What Beck knows very well is what comments like that implies to his viewers. It's as if he's telling them, "Hey, there's a Muslim conspiracy to take over the US". And these people believe this.

    And respect his message? This is a guy who once called President Obama a racist. If someone were to base-lessly say that about George Bush (oh, I don't know, like some guy named Kanye West), he would be vilified. Yet Beck gets away with it. He gets away with saying ridiculous things like comparing the youth camp in Norway where those terrible murders occurred to Hitler's Nazi Germany.

    He's not without his counterparts. I throw people like Lawrence O'Donnell and Keith Olbermann in that camp, though I usually don't find their rhetoric as incendiary. These people are not newsmen, they simply spin news to fit their own agendas. The reason that Beck is dangerous, and I don't say that facetiously, I mean it; is because many people in our country turn to him as their main source of news. Beck's power outweighs Olbermann, O'Donnell, etc. because he has a far larger and more loyal audience. So when Beck says something, like it or not, it has ramifications.

    The brilliant and reasonable conservative commentator David Frum has faced a storm of criticism in recent years for his views on Beck (Earlier this year, he actually called Beck a "circus act"). In response to this, a significant group of people go around saying that Frum is a fake conservative, predominately because he doesn't like Glenn Beck. This, of course, is baseless and ridiculous. Frum was a speechwriter under GWB, and has written many pro-conservative books (not to mention his unreal academic credentials). But because he was critical of Glenn Beck, he's a phony. THAT'S the power that Beck has. And it is unrivaled in today's media.

    And before I get vilified on here, I'm NOT someone who rails against every talking head out there in the political world that doesn't agree with me. I'm just someone that happens to think that of those people, Glenn Beck is the most wildly misinformed and the most outlandish.


    What we're talking about is classic Beck. Take a minor news story and convince your viewers that it is a full-blown crisis. Why does he do this? BECAUSE PEOPLE WATCH HIM. If Glenn Beck scares you, then you watch his show, because he makes you think he has the answers. He's an entertainer first, commentator second.

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