Dave Bolland Stays Classy

[bojohnson]

Don't bother wickabee

I tried to argue my point last summer about bryzgalov, but most people just seem to brush it aside, and start calling you crazy


Wickabee I assume you were born in, or have been associated with the city of Vancouver a long time, and take comments towards it personally
I understand because it's like the Bryz thing

Let's say kesler went and said everyone from Chicago is stupid, fat, and all lazy people
I highly doubt the windy city folks would be on their knees praying and praising towards kesler

For the record, I don't like the canucks, and I found bollards comments kind of funny, but I see exactly where he's coming from


As for quality of city's.....

Every city has garbage

Go to the north end in Winnipeg, parts of Vancouver is very bad(reality shows on vamcouver are common) but I'm going to guess Chicago has a lot of crime in many areas too

Winnipeg has good and bad areas
Vancouver has good and bad areas
Chicago has good and bad areas

[edthesandwich]

I'm not clever? :(

[MatsSundin13Rocks]

Did you hear the Mark Recchi comments about the Canucks? No offense but everyone is hating on the Canucks. During last season they were the most hated team. Probably because they were the best team in the league by a mile until they lost in the Stanley Cup finals!

I'm a Leafs fan so I'm used to abuse by Canucks fans who are band wagon jumping fans. I have thick skin but the complete league wide criticism of the Canucks is uncalled for.

[Wickabee]

Honestly, the closest association I really have with Vancouver is:
A - It's the closest Major city to me (Calgary being a fairly close second)
B - My uncle lived there for quite a few years.
C - My favourite hockey, football and soccer (even I forgot the MLS was in Vancouver, makes for 3 pro teams) teams are based there.

I'm going to voice this one last time and be done. My problem with Bolland is that he was completely ignorant in his comments about the people of Vancouver. A guy like Bolland talking about the Sedins who are infinitely more talented than he could ever have hoped to be is pretty brainless as well and a lesser topic in it's own right, but when he brought the people of Vancouver into it, he crossed the line. Honestly, if he had made it about the riots, I probably wouldn't feel as strongly about it, and might even agree with the sentiment, but this was about the people of Vancouver, not the rioters, so there goes that.

Go ahead and talk about how it always rains or there aren't enough Starbucks or the bars are dead or whatever, but don't talk about the people of the city. Half of them have never been to a hockey game and couldn't care less, have no idea who Dave Bolland is and probably don't care if he lives or dies. I'll agree there are probably more, let's say less than normal, people in Vancouver than most places, for the same reason there's more less than normal people in LA than most places. It's the largest Canadian city west of Toronto, and the west tends to attract less than normal people. I guarantee you, though, that if he does actually feel that way, that he doesn't want to leave his room because of it, it is due to his own preconceived notions and nothing he has actually experienced. If he was just "making a joke" and doesn't actually think that Vancouverites are "weirdos", it was still in poor taste and classless.

That goes for any city in the league. If he had said the same thing about Toronto or Detroit or Anaheim I'd think the same thing. I probably wouldn't be as vocal about it, but I'd think the same thing. It's a stupid, classless, bush league thing to say under any circumstances.

My other, related problem is the people who took every word a Canuck said and put it through the ringer repeatedly last June are many of the same people who are defending Bolland or just pretending it didn't happen. Last spring the line was, "The Canucks should stop talking to the press, they're playing right into their hands. What are they doing? They're idiots!" Now it's, "Well, the hosts were egging him on and he gave in to the crowd and just ended up playing into their hands. It's totally understandable." Everything the Canucks did "wrong" with the press in June is suddenly a valid excuse for Bolland? That's where I see hypocrisy.

Now, is it because that was the Finals and this is just the piddly, meaningless regular season? Is this because the Canucks, who CBC, TSN, Sportsnet et al, not to mention the random hockey fans I end up talking to on and offline, as well as my non-Canucks-fan friends (of which I have many) tell me is, in fact, the most hated team in the NHL at this time, is a very popular team to hate, so much so that publicly insulting the players, team and city is accepted, or at least it's alright to look the other way? Maybe it's one, maybe it's the other, likely it's a bit of both. However, I do feel that if it were a Canuck saying the same things about Chicago, it would be major news, instead of being swept away.

ed: sometimes, just not there

[duwal]

Did you hear the Mark Recchi comments about the Canucks? No offense but everyone is hating on the Canucks. During last season they were the most hated team. Probably because they were the best team in the league by a mile until they lost in the Stanley Cup finals!

I'm a Leafs fan so I'm used to abuse by Canucks fans who are band wagon jumping fans. I have thick skin but the complete league wide criticism of the Canucks is uncalled for.

I just don't get why it seems Canucks fans think their team should be help so high. Maybe thats where a fair amount of the 'hatred' towards the team is because the fans seem to think the Canucks are 'the best team in the league by a mile' which absolutely isn't true. Last year they had more points than any other team in the league and are a very good team but also a lot of that is the division they play in and the doormat teams like Edmonton and Colorado last year. The two worst teams in the entire league and they're both in a division with Vancouver. I mean look at the Pacific last year and their worst team, the Stars, would have been higher in the standing over the second place Flames.

Now don't get me wrong, the Canucks are a very good team but its the egos of a percentage of their fans that seem to think that another very good team like Detroit or San Jose or Pittsburgh or Boston just isn't even in their league that has other big hockey fans scoffing and thinking 'Really??? Where is this sense of entitlement coming from?'

[Wickabee]

I just don't get why it seems Canucks fans think their team should be help so high.

Umm, no one is saying the Canucks should be held on a pedestal higher than anyone else. I'm saying we should be on the same pedestal everyone else is, and not trodden on by fans, press, etc as they constantly have been as far back as I can remember.

Once you realize that THAT is what's being said, maybe you'll understand the rest, but if you walk into it with a completely wrong preconceived notion, then yes, it's going to be very difficult to understand, since we'll be having two entirely different conversations.

[somawilt]

Bolland STAYS classy? More like he back-peddles quicker than most. He made some stupid comments and didn't have the bullocks to stand by them when pressed.

[zunato]

. However, I do feel that if it were a Canuck saying the same things about Chicago, it would be major news, instead of being swept away.

ed: sometimes, just not there [/quote]


Having lived here in Chicago almost my entire life I can honestly say that if a Canuck were to say the same thing about Chicago we would laugh it right off.