RIDICULOUS eBay scam! This guy should be SHOT!

[baseballguy601]

yeah shill biding go's on WAY to much on ebay

thats one of the reaon's i only put (when i bid) what i anticipate on paying cuz if do higher i usually get shilled

[andyb582]

All i can say is "THATS FUNNY" and ridiclous

[Star_Cards]

I understand the desire for a seller to want his cards to sell for the maximum. That said, I've never understood how shillers can afford to work this way. I would assume that a very high amount of shillers end up "selling" there cards to their second ebay account or to their friends account...which in turn only leaves them with ebay fees and no payment coming their way to help pay for them. If they do end up selling their card for a bit more the second time around, they still have fees and time already added into the card once it does sell the second time. The time isn't much of a factpr since you can just hit a few buttons to relist, but if you shill sell a card for $100, that's a lot of fees to have to end up paying twice...if you do sell the card for real a second time.

If you list your cards right, 99% of the time you are going to get what the market sets. And with being able to search "completed items" a seller of a single card can pretty much guess exactly what their card will go for...if they are half way smart about listing it properly. I use that a lot when buying or looking to set my buy it now store price.

I guess shillers should just look to buy a bit better and then they won't have to worry about turning a profit.

m

[baseballguy601]

are you talking about what i said?

All i can say is "THATS FUNNY" and ridiclous

[tommy251]

He says that the Autos "were all obtained in person at games or card shows". My question is this, Is it even possiple to obtain so many high profile autos that way? When ever I go to games it is almost impossible to get the superstars Autos. And this guy has almost every superstar possible. How many games or shows does this guy got to? This is just my question.

[tommy251]

I understand the desire for a seller to want his cards to sell for the maximum. That said, I've never understood how shillers can afford to work this way. I would assume that a very high amount of shillers end up "selling" there cards to their second ebay account or to their friends account...which in turn only leaves them with ebay fees and no payment coming their way to help pay for them. If they do end up selling their card for a bit more the second time around, they still have fees and time already added into the card once it does sell the second time. The time isn't much of a factpr since you can just hit a few buttons to relist, but if you shill sell a card for $100, that's a lot of fees to have to end up paying twice...if you do sell the card for real a second time.

If you list your cards right, 99% of the time you are going to get what the market sets. And with being able to search "completed items" a seller of a single card can pretty much guess exactly what their card will go for...if they are half way smart about listing it properly. I use that a lot when buying or looking to set my buy it now store price.

I guess shillers should just look to buy a bit better and then they won't have to worry about turning a profit.

m

My guess would be that if they sell to "themselves" they use the second chance option to sell it to the next highest bidder.

[teacheric]

He says that the Autos "were all obtained in person at games or card shows". My question is this, Is it even possiple to obtain so many high profile autos that way? When ever I go to games it is almost impossible to get the superstars Autos. And this guy has almost every superstar possible. How many games or shows does this guy got to? This is just my question.

Probably none.

If I signed a card (you didn't know it) and sold it to you as a legit IP auto, you can claim the same thing: "It came from another collector's personal collection."

I wouldn't bite as an eBay bidder...but this guy is ripping people off as it seems to be so...

[baseballguy601]

if the guy gets enough stuff signed and sells he would make enough from all that to travel to other places plus but enough to live on in his pocket


think about this

i'll use an example of mine


i go to a phillies game at citizens bank park


i get a ball singed by :
jim thome
tomas perez
harry kalas
david bell
jimmy rollins
bobby abreu


then cards signed by


ryan madson x3
jimmy rollins 1
bobby abreu 1
rheal cormier 3
david bell 2




all that could probablly go for $60 including shipping and paid a $15 ticket

so i would make a $45 profit in 1 game

so he prob makes about $80 profit a game x 7 days a week for baseball

$560 sallary per week plus no taxes


not a bad gig

[eastslastheart]

Yeah, what you described is not a bad gig. But look at the signatures on the cards this guy is selling. Look at them. They look NOTHING like the certified autos of these players, and not to mention that, they all look like they were done with the same handwriting and the same black or silver sharpie. It's one thing to give somebody the benefit of the doubt, but come on...this guy just has too much going against him for me to extend any kind of trust.

if the guy gets enough stuff signed and sells he would make enough from all that to travel to other places plus but enough to live on in his pocket


think about this

i'll use an example of mine


i go to a phillies game at citizens bank park


i get a ball singed by :
jim thome
tomas perez
harry kalas
david bell
jimmy rollins
bobby abreu


then cards signed by


ryan madson x3
jimmy rollins 1
bobby abreu 1
rheal cormier 3
david bell 2




all that could probablly go for $60 including shipping and paid a $15 ticket

so i would make a $45 profit in 1 game

so he prob makes about $80 profit a game x 7 days a week for baseball

$560 sallary per week plus no taxes


not a bad gig

[tommy251]

I understand what baseballguy is saying, but this guy is offering an auto of almost every major superstar in football.