JoePa died

[autocollectr79]

i live in "big ten country" and still root for the SEC but imo JoePa is indeed a legend and the best coaches that ever lived. everybodys goin to have their own opinion about everything that happened but no matter what u cant take away what hes done for psu and ncaa football.

[REDANDGOLDPRIDE]

the fact that our governor here in PA has order flags to half mast is a joke. when was the last time our state lowered its flags for fallen soldiers or veterans? give me a break.

And the people weeping outside of his statue? Makes me sick. He was a freaking football coach, not a god.

[bcct12 sports]

Being a Huge Penn State Fan, (always have been, always will be) This is what i don't understand about people being very angry at JoePa. Mike McQuery did not report to the police but to the person above him and no one was angry at him for his actions (and he actually witnessed the rape) but then when Paterno did the same thing, (report the incident to his superiors) he all of a sudden did something horrible. Why is McQuery not under fire the way paterno was? I truly dont think he did anything more wrong than anyone else involved in the pennstate campus.

[bcct12 sports]

And the people weeping outside of his statue? Makes me sick. He was a freaking football coach, not a god.

He is viewed as a god at Penn State. He practically made the college one of the best football teams for many many years. He also made the college so much more desirable to go to because of their sports teams. When a man stays at the same college (and had the oppurtunity to coach the jets but turned it down so he could stay at PennState) he will be loved there forever.

[REDANDGOLDPRIDE]

Being a Huge Penn State Fan, (always have been, always will be) This is what i don't understand about people being very angry at JoePa. Mike McQuery did not report to the police but to the person above him and no one was angry at him for his actions (and he actually witnessed the rape) but then when Paterno did the same thing, (report the incident to his superiors) he all of a sudden did something horrible. Why is McQuery not under fire the way paterno was? I truly dont think he did anything more wrong than anyone else involved in the pennstate campus.

I don't think anyone its piling this all on Joe, that's obviously wrong. EVERYONE that knew ANYTHING about it and failed to take proper action is guilty, all those people on his staff. McQuery is the most guilty, but this debate comes up only when Paterno is mentioned now.

[REDANDGOLDPRIDE]

He is viewed as a god at Penn State. He practically made the college one of the best football teams for many many years. He also made the college so much more desirable to go to because of their sports teams. When a man stays at the same college (and had the oppurtunity to coach the jets but turned it down so he could stay at PennState) he will be loved there forever.

I get that man, but it disturbs me to see the pedestal he's placed on. Like.. there's a limit.

[bcct12 sports]

I don't think anyone its piling this all on Joe, that's obviously wrong. EVERYONE that knew ANYTHING about it and failed to take proper action is guilty, all those people on his staff. McQuery is the most guilty, but this debate comes up only when Paterno is mentioned now.

did you see the twitter feeds that were posted when he died. They were as if he was the one doing the rape. Im just saying that if he wasn't as big of a name as Joe Paterno, he probably wouldn't have been under the same fire

[druce26]

Come on man, Mcquery was under fire. He was also a kid in his early 20s, not a man who had become a diety in that region. The reason Joe got so much heat is because more was expected of him, as well it should have been. To quote Spiderman, "With great power comes great responsibilty".

Being a Huge Penn State Fan, (always have been, always will be) This is what i don't understand about people being very angry at JoePa. Mike McQuery did not report to the police but to the person above him and no one was angry at him for his actions (and he actually witnessed the rape) but then when Paterno did the same thing, (report the incident to his superiors) he all of a sudden did something horrible. Why is McQuery not under fire the way paterno was? I truly dont think he did anything more wrong than anyone else involved in the pennstate campus.

[cyberer]

I still don't know what paterno could have told the cops without it being hearsay.

"I heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy that saw Sandusky Harming kids."

Legally, that has no bearing unless you saw it yourself. And if the report turned out false and he brought a storm down on the university for no reason then he would be fired. I don't know that I myself would jeopardize my job on the word of mcquery, a 20 year old kid as you said. Would you?

I would have done something certainly- told my superiors. Maybe I would have done it more demanding and forcefully than Joe PA did. However, I really am not sure with the stakes being that high that I would go straight to the police based on hearsay, jeopardizing my job, unless I had evidence or saw it myself.

That's how I feel. Perhaps Joe PA should have done more, but I'm not sure going straight to the cops is a fair expectation given te circumstances and this demonizing him as worse than sandusky has to stop.

[druce26]

I really don't see where I was demonizing him, you'll have to point that quote out to me. I also didn't say he should have marched down to the police station. I was responding to the comments the other poster made about how he is getting all of this flack when McQuery wasn't . McQuery has gotten nothing but flack as well, but he isn't the biggest name at the dance. The superiors lost their jobs and are facing perjury charges. My response was to the poster, and the Paterno apologists, who act like this was a JoePa witch hunt. If people believe his only obligation is to tell his superiors and let it go, that's fine, that is what you morally believe. I didn't hear one quote from anyone that said he confronted Sandusky about it over the 7 year period afterwards that they shared an office building together. Wouldn't you have?

I still don't know what paterno could have told the cops without it being hearsay.

"I heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy that saw Sandusky Harming kids."

Legally, that has no bearing unless you saw it yourself. And if the report turned out false and he brought a storm down on the university for no reason then he would be fired. I don't know that I myself would jeopardize my job on the word of mcquery, a 20 year old kid as you said. Would you?

I would have done something certainly- told my superiors. Maybe I would have done it more demanding and forcefully than Joe PA did. However, I really am not sure with the stakes being that high that I would go straight to the police based on hearsay, jeopardizing my job, unless I had evidence or saw it myself.

That's how I feel. Perhaps Joe PA should have done more, but I'm not sure going straight to the cops is a fair expectation given te circumstances and this demonizing him as worse than sandusky has to stop.