Site Rule question....

[Imac7065]

That line about the Mods was a cop out.. and I know this first hand. I had an issue in the past where a mod accused me of posting "wax for sale".. even though what I had posted was a factory set from 1983... the head of the site (patriotsguy.. something like that) asked me to forward him the PM's from that mod.. and in less than an hour the infraction the moderator put on my account was reversed. THAT was handled smoothly.. it's not that difficult sir.

You simply ask the parties involved to forward the PM's regarding the deals.. if they cannot produce them.. they are in violation. If they can, they are legit.. it's not hard at all.

I still would like an answer on how not being able to post a second transaction without moderator permission is not "holding up" a transaction. Are you saying we should violate the rule about posting every transaction or not?

Yes it appears that you are the only one that is confused because we rarely have problems with this rule.



No, it would not. Sending you a PM asking if you intentionally broke a rule would be pointless. Unless you are one of the more stupid people in the world you are going to claim it was unintentional. Nobody with half a brain is going to admit to feedback fraud.

The rule is clear.

Create multiple deals. Send multiple packages. Leave multiple feedbacks. No problem.
Create multiple deals. Send one package. Leave multiple feedbacks. Problem.

[Imac7065]

Now I don't even get the explanation? grrrr

[habsheaven]

The intent of the rule is obvious and logical. Quibbling over how to circumvent the rule on the RARE occasion that it happens is pointless. If you have all the e-mails/pms outlining the circumstances there is no reason to hold up the actual transfer of goods while you wait for a mod to edit the original deal. You are making a big deal over nothing, IMHO.

[duane1969]

I still would like an answer on how not being able to post a second transaction without moderator permission is not "holding up" a transaction. Are you saying we should violate the rule about posting every transaction or not?

I have told you multiple times that mod permission is not needed. If you want to insist that you get an answer then I wish you luck. There is no rule against multiple deals, just a rule against posting multiple deals, sending them all together, and then leaving feedback as if they were seperate.

[Imac7065]

I find it a form of insurance being able to post a deal in public rather than just agreeing in a PM (like other sites).. that's why I use this site and recommend it to others. The site also requires the posting of transactions.

Saying we should A) ignore that rule in lew of another and B) saying it's not a big deal... is why I am so frustrated here.

From the perspective of a person like me it feels as though the mods would rather be lazy and just accuse people of wrong doing rather than see if they are in fact doing it right.

Adding on a requirement to send all items separately in separate packages is just beyond silly.

The intent of the rule is obvious and logical. Quibbling over how to circumvent the rule on the RARE occasion that it happens is pointless. If you have all the e-mails/pms outlining the circumstances there is no reason to hold up the actual transfer of goods while you wait for a mod to edit the original deal. You are making a big deal over nothing, IMHO.

[Imac7065]

You are saying I need to violate one rule to follow another.. THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING ABOUT...

do I A) Post all transactions agreed to or..

B) Not post multiple transactions on the same day from the same person

THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING lol

I have told you multiple times that mod permission is not needed. If you want to insist that you get an answer then I wish you luck. There is no rule against multiple deals, just a rule against posting multiple deals, sending them all together, and then leaving feedback as if they were seperate.

[Imac7065]

Here is a DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE RULES OF THIS SITE...

"All trades must be made with the trade manager if you want a trade moderated, no exceptions."

[Imac7065]

I would love to hear from more members about this.. the Moderator of this forum doesn't seem to want to answer the contradiction I have pointed out... am I over reacting or do others feel the same?

[duane1969]

You are saying I need to violate one rule to follow another.. THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING ABOUT...

do I A) Post all transactions agreed to or..

B) Not post multiple transactions on the same day from the same person

THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING lol

I have no idea what you are talking about. AT NO POINT DID I TELL YOU NOT TO POST TRADES WITH THE SAME PERSON ON THE SAME DAY.

ensbergcollector is correct. Don't take it as a threat. Take it as a warning of what not to do.

And I get that what you did was honest, but posting multiple deals in the same day with the same person and all of those deals being sent in the same package but leaving feedback for multiple deals is the definition of what is prohibited by the rule.

Nobody said you need permission to do a deal. Just PM a mod and ask them to edit your current deal or post the second deal and PM a mod and ask them to combine the deals into one.

Nobody said you need mod permission to do multiple deals. That is your interpretation of what you have been told and it is wrong. If you want to post 200 deals in one day with the same person, go right ahead, just make sure that it is 200 seperate deals. If they are all sent in the same package and then you leave feedback for 200 seperate deals then it is feedback fraud.

Create multiple deals. Send multiple packages. Leave multiple feedbacks. No problem.Create multiple deals. Send one package. Leave multiple feedbacks. Problem.

I have told you multiple times that mod permission is not needed. If you want to insist that you get an answer then I wish you luck. There is no rule against multiple deals, just a rule against posting multiple deals, sending them all together, and then leaving feedback as if they were seperate.

I don't know why you insist on someone explaining something to you that was not said.

The simple fact is that you broke the rule and got a warning for it and now you want to throw a tantrum and demand that you not have to abide by the rule or make excuses for why you shouldn't have to abide by it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, the rules apply to everyone including you.

I will not explain why you have been told two contradicting things because you have not been told two contradicting things. You made that up. I have repeatedly and clearly explained it to you. If you can not grasp the concept then there is nothing I can do.

[duane1969]

Here is a DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE RULES OF THIS SITE...

"All trades must be made with the trade manager if you want a trade moderated, no exceptions."

That rule is regarding disputes. We do not moderate trades that are not posted in the trade manager. If you do not post it in the trade manager then you can not file a dispute.