Why do Americans reject Evolution so much?

[Star_Cards]

using wikipedia as a source reference? highschools and middleschools have even banned wiki

and depending who you ask, there has been not only bones but footsteps of man and dino side by side

and where does the bible say dinosaurs and humans were created together? or are we back to the 6000 year old earth?

I'm curious, does the bible state how old the earth is?

I think the connection of dinosaurs and humans being created during the same time is because the it's said that God created everything in 6 days and rested on the seventh. I'm not sure if that's something that is meant to be literally translated into seven actual days as we know days, but there are a lot of people who believe that god literally created everything in 6 days.

[JustAlex]

using wikipedia as a source reference? highschools and middleschools have even banned wiki

Yes, I used Wikipedia as a source.

I ALSO used TalkOrigins, religioustolerance, and rational wiki.

Wikipedia remains as one of the BEST reference sites in all the internet.

If you want you can see ALL the citations that they used in the "Transitional Fossils" link I posted, almost 50 references in the footnote!

Wikipedia is a great source regardless what you say.

and depending who you ask, there has been not only bones but footsteps of man and dino side by side

This claim has been proven false many times:

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2008...to-texas-kids/

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

"....the "man track" claims have not stood up to close scientific scrutiny, and in recent years have been abandoned even by most creationists."

FACT: NEVER have scientists found a Modern human skeleton or bones which dates millions of years.

FACT: NEVER have scientists found ANY modern human bones next to any dinosaur....in the ENTIRE PLANET!

and where does the bible say dinosaurs and humans were created together? or are we back to the 6000 year old earth?

God creates ALL land animals on "day 6" and then he creates man on THE SAME DAY!

Incredibly enough all scientific evidence shows this is nonsense!


As for the age of the earth....I have NO IDEA what number creationists want to put on it, but scientists say it's about 4.5 Billion years old.

[duane1969]

I'm curious, does the bible state how old the earth is?

I think the connection of dinosaurs and humans being created during the same time is because the it's said that God created everything in 6 days and rested on the seventh. I'm not sure if that's something that is meant to be literally translated into seven actual days as we know days, but there are a lot of people who believe that god literally created everything in 6 days.

2 Peter 3:8 says that a 1000 years with God is as a day to man, but that is referencing after the rapture/death of man. If we use that as point of reference, on the 5th day he created mammals and birds and on the 6th day created man, so that would be a 1000 year gap.

However, it is generally accepted by science that modern animals came to be after the prehistoric period and even religious theologians agree that dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible because they existed before the era of man. So the argument can be made that Day 3 or 4 was the period of dinosaurs, so using the 1000 year aspect we have a 2000-3000 year period between dinosaurs and man.

Here is the x-factor. More recent interpretation of the creation period in the Bible interprets it as 7 ages, not 7 days. So the question becomes, "What does the word "ages" mean to God?" If we interpret an age to mean the same to God as man's version then an age can be tens of thousands or even millions of years making the 2-3 "ages" between dinosaurs and man to be anywhere betwen 20-30,000 years to as much as 2-3 million years.

[JustAlex]

So the argument can be made that Day 3 or 4 was the period of dinosaurs, so using the 1000 year aspect we have a 2000-3000 year period between dinosaurs and man.

Umm....NO!

JUST NO!

Apparently you haven't read the bible:



Dinosaurs AND Man were "created" on the SAME DAY!

[habsheaven]

2 Peter 3:8 says that a 1000 years with God is as a day to man, but that is referencing after the rapture/death of man. If we use that as point of reference, on the 5th day he created mammals and birds and on the 6th day created man, so that would be a 1000 year gap.

However, it is generally accepted by science that modern animals came to be after the prehistoric period and even religious theologians agree that dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible because they existed before the era of man. So the argument can be made that Day 3 or 4 was the period of dinosaurs, so using the 1000 year aspect we have a 2000-3000 year period between dinosaurs and man.

Here is the x-factor. More recent interpretation of the creation period in the Bible interprets it as 7 ages, not 7 days. So the question becomes, "What does the word "ages" mean to God?" If we interpret an age to mean the same to God as man's version then an age can be tens of thousands or even millions of years making the 2-3 "ages" between dinosaurs and man to be anywhere betwen 20-30,000 years to as much as 2-3 million years.

There always seems to be a "new interpretation" of the Bible to counter advances in human knowledge. When do you think believers are going to get a "new outlook" on the validity of the bible and accept that it was written by men who had very limited knowledge of the world around them?

[Star_Cards]

Thanks duane, for the information. I still lean towards scientific methods of dating the earth and it's inhabitants over the various biblical interpretations. It just seems more realistic to me.

[ensbergcollector]

There always seems to be a "new interpretation" of the Bible to counter advances in human knowledge. When do you think believers are going to get a "new outlook" on the validity of the bible and accept that it was written by men who had very limited knowledge of the world around them?

this i find funny since there always seems to be new "theories" of science. science changes their story on just about everything constantly.

the hebrew word that has been translated as day can also mean "a period of time." It isn't anything new. the hebrew word found in genesis has always meant either

[duane1969]

Umm....NO!

JUST NO!

Apparently you haven't read the bible:


Dinosaurs AND Man were "created" on the SAME DAY!

Apparently you haven't read the Bible. Dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible.

There always seems to be a "new interpretation" of the Bible to counter advances in human knowledge. When do you think believers are going to get a "new outlook" on the validity of the bible and accept that it was written by men who had very limited knowledge of the world around them?

I don't see it as a new interpretation to counter advances in human knowledge as much as a change in perspective in light of new knowledge.

Additionally, there has long been a theological discussion about the meaning of several words in the Bible. Part of the issue arises because the meaning of words has changed over time. Sort of like the word "bad" meant something negative when our parents were young then when we were young it meant cool or good.

Thanks duane, for the information. I still lean towards scientific methods of dating the earth and it's inhabitants over the various biblical interpretations. It just seems more realistic to me.

I do too. I just see flaws in some of the scientific data and do not whole-heartedly jump into the Kool-Aid bowl like some people do.

[habsheaven]

this i find funny since there always seems to be new "theories" of science. science changes their story on just about everything constantly.

the hebrew word that has been translated as day can also mean "a period of time." It isn't anything new. the hebrew word found in genesis has always meant either

It may not be anything "new", but it certainly hasn't been open to interpretation for 2,000 years. Science is always improving. It is not throwing out new theories everyday.

So what is it now? Is the earth 6,000 - 10,000 years old or is it 4.5 billion years old? What is your interpretation of Genesis? What is the religious concensus?

I find it funny that for something that is so important to so many people, none of them can agree on any of the details. Maybe that is the strategy; keep the explanations so convoluted that a straight answer is impossible to give.

[ensbergcollector]

It may not be anything "new", but it certainly hasn't been open to interpretation for 2,000 years. Science is always improving. It is not throwing out new theories everyday.

So what is it now? Is the earth 6,000 - 10,000 years old or is it 4.5 billion years old? What is your interpretation of Genesis? What is the religious concensus?

I find it funny that for something that is so important to so many people, none of them can agree on any of the details. Maybe that is the strategy; keep the explanations so convoluted that a straight answer is impossible to give.

i know this probably doesn't make sense to someone with as much venom toward religion as you do, but at the end of the day, i could care less how old the earth is. my faith in God and not based on my interpretation of genesis 1. religion might be important to many people, but the things that seem to matter to non-christians, aren't usually the same things that are important to christians. Most christians, while curious as to how genesis 1 should be interpreted, are not hung up on it.