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08-31-2012, 09:36 PM #31
duwal, so without the other choice in mind, you still think Obama did a good enough job to be re-elected?
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08-31-2012, 09:55 PM #32
When your entire system is built on "lesser of 2 evils" the way the US is (and really, replace "2" with "3 or 4" and "the US" with Canada and the statement is still true) you can't answer that question. The obvious answer is no, no he didn't. But did GWB? I would say no and I know many would agree with him. At the same time, while I'm not going to say Kerry wouldn't have done a better job, I also understand completely how Bush won that election. Many saw him as better than the other option. I'm sure Clinton and Reagan got a lot of those votes too. In fact, I'm positive that every 2-term President had a lot of people who thought he did a terrible job vote for him again because he was still better than the other guy.
You can't not take the other guy into account when voting in our systems. It just doesn't work.
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08-31-2012, 10:30 PM #33
wickabee, i am unsure i agree but see what you are saying.
if i tried a budget system that did not work i would replace it, even though i would be unsure the next system would be better. i would rather go with something i may have a chance with then something i know will fail.
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08-31-2012, 10:38 PM #34
I understand your point as well. When every election is just picking who will take you less farther into the hole, it's not much fun.
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09-01-2012, 01:42 AM #35
absolutely, I think that he has exceeded the expectations that I personally thought either Obama or McCain could pull off in their first term with the abysmal mess that they would be inheriting at the time that they would take office. I didn't think after Bush that we would see light at the end of the tunnel in the entire first term of whoever was voted in to follow
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09-01-2012, 08:02 AM #36
I think the US could be a lot further along in economic recovery than it is. The problem as I see it is this. Nothing is getting done. There remains too much uncertainty. Something is better than nothing when facing a recovery of this magnitude. Short-term, the only thing that matters is getting the economic engine running again at full speed. Unfortunately, too many lawmakers are focused on the deficit/debt at a time when it should be secondary. In my opinion, when you are facing a crisis (economic or otherwise) you have to fall in line behind your leader and support whatever course of action he feels is necessary. Instead of doing that, the Republicans have taken this opportunity (poor choice of words, I know) to debate economic philosophy, knowing full well that nothing can get done without their support. Someone HAS/HAD to compromise. In my mind, that should be the side that doesn't currently hold the office of President.
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09-02-2012, 01:51 AM #37
nothing can be done without their support? they passed Obama Care
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09-02-2012, 05:55 AM #38
They passed the ACA at the same time that the stimulus package was being implemented. It is obvious to both sides that more measures had to be implemented in the last 2 years. Nothing has been accomplished, unless you call the downgrade an accomplishment.
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09-02-2012, 12:34 PM #39
The Republicans have outright said they spent the last four years trying to make Obama a one termer.
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Originally Posted by shrewsbury 
