Mass Immigration - Who Does it Help?

[tpeichel]

Who gets helped the most?

1) Democratic Party
2) Corporations

Who gets hurt the most?

1) Taxpayers
2) Low skilled/low income workers

The bigger problem is that mass immigration leads to self segregation rather than integration. You can already see it in the black and latino communities that have completely separate cultures. While there is no problem embracing your heritage, nations without a common and shared interest are doomed to conflict and eventual violence. In my lifetime, the country has never seemed more divided than right now and it's not just along political lines. I believe this Immigration Bill will make the current problems much worse and accelerate the looming conflict. I can't think of any examples where importing the third world on a mass scale to western civilizations has turned out positively. Can anyone else?

[Wickabee]

Who gets helped the most?

1) Democratic Party
2) Corporations

Who gets hurt the most?

1) Taxpayers
2) Low skilled/low income workers

The bigger problem is that mass immigration leads to self segregation rather than integration. You can already see it in the black and latino communities that have completely separate cultures. While there is no problem embracing your heritage, nations without a common and shared interest are doomed to conflict and eventual violence. In my lifetime, the country has never seemed more divided than right now and it's not just along political lines. I believe this Immigration Bill will make the current problems much worse and accelerate the looming conflict. I can't think of any examples where importing the third world on a mass scale to western civilizations has turned out positively. Can anyone else?

1: You don't think it helps immigrants?
2: You just described Canada and said it's doomed to violence.
3: It's entirely along party lines, or you wouldn't have mentioned a party.

[tpeichel]

I am not familiar with Canadian demographics, but my suspicion is that they do not have the concentrations in specific populations like in the U.S. where black/African-Americans are approximately 12% of the population and Hispanic/Latino is approximately 16%. The proposed Immigration Bill will only increase these percentages.

Of course it helps immigrants in the short-term, but that is of little consequence to me if it leads to the disintegration of the United States.

There is a huge political component to this, and it only helps Democrats. Any Republican that thinks this helps there party is a complete dolt. What party do they think poorly educated and low skilled immigrants will vote for? Latin American voters have consistently empowered socialist governments and latino voting patterns have held true in the U.S. It's folly to think that will change just because some Republicans embrace amnesty.

[centrehice]

Canada has no real Mexican immigrant population. There are scattered segments of Central Americans, but that is about it, but the numbers are very low. Blacks are probably 1% or less of the population and are from the Caribbean, & Africa itself, not via slavery.

[tpeichel]

Canada has no real Mexican immigrant population. There are scattered segments of Central Americans, but that is about it, but the numbers are very low. Blacks are probably 1% or less of the population and are from the Caribbeand, & Africa itself, not via slavery.

If that is the case, then Canada is not a good example of mass immigration of the third world into western civilization.

[Wickabee]

I didn't realize immigrants only came in black and Mexican.
My apology, we're having two different conversations.

And if you admit that there is politics in this, why would you say otherwise?

[tpeichel]

What is Canada's largest group of immigrants? What percent of the population?

You'll have to point me to what you think I said about politics that is contradictory and I'll try to explain.

[Wickabee]

#1 doesn't matter. You just made all immigration about 1 race and 1 other country.
#2 I think political lines is exactly what's it's drawn upon and you, an obvious conservative (no offense) saying it helps the Democratic party and not saying it helps the immigrants themselves kind of proves that, don't you think?

[tpeichel]

No, I am making the point that there is a difference between immigration and mass immigration.

Assimilation can occur when immigration is a low percentage of the population. That seems to be the case with Canada. Mass immigration, on the other hand, does not allow the host culture to assimilate the new comers.

[Wickabee]

You're assuming assimilation or melting pot is better than a mosaic. Canada says otherwise.