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    This sums up playbook.

    LMFAO, that's classic!!!

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    UD and Panini are truly in direct competition with one another and I mean that in the sense they are virtually a copy and paste of each other. Seems to me that there is less and less incentive to keep collecting. The same thing is being mass-produced over and over again. Same stuff, different signature.

    Playbook may be a more limited product, but it doesn't add value because its desirability is only as long-lived as when the next product comes out.

    The only products that keep some kind of value are the truly limited ones like ITG's Stickwork. You won't see the other two produce anything like ITG does. At least not at a price where you'll want to buy it.

    Anything coming out of UD and Panini is unfortunately not nearly as limited and will be available for purchase for YEARS after their release date.

    I'll be very curious to see at how much of a discount Panini products will sell when their run is over.

    decent post. I still believe UD trumps Panini by a mile in Hockey. Their products sell for more and singles sell for more.

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    decent post. I still believe UD trumps Panini by a mile in Hockey. Their products sell for more and singles sell for more.

    It is a very misleading observation that UD products sell for more in the secondary market. It is true that if you take an UD card /5 and a similar Panini card /5, the UD one will sell for more. However, unless it is a box of the Cup, your chances of pulling /5 or /10 card from an UD box are essentially 0, while for Panini the chance of pulling a low numbered card even from an individual box are very good. If you pull a low numbered (like /5) card of a semi-star player or any rookie it will give you like $20-25 in the worst case of it being simply a base parallel. Thus, the average return on a box of Panini is like 40%, on a box of UD it is more like 30%.

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    sorry posted in wrong thread

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    Participated in a 2 box break and got a Gordie Howe /50 auto. Happy about that. Never pulled a Howe auto. So.. I particpated in a 2 case break and believe I picked a bad team lol but whatever. This is the only way I would break this product.
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    It is a very misleading observation that UD products sell for more in the secondary market. It is true that if you take an UD card /5 and a similar Panini card /5, the UD one will sell for more. However, unless it is a box of the Cup, your chances of pulling /5 or /10 card from an UD box are essentially 0, while for Panini the chance of pulling a low numbered card even from an individual box are very good. If you pull a low numbered (like /5) card of a semi-star player or any rookie it will give you like $20-25 in the worst case of it being simply a base parallel. Thus, the average return on a box of Panini is like 40%, on a box of UD it is more like 30%.

    Nice post. Return and all that mumbo jumbo are concentrated too heavily. Just have fun and break it. Plus there are other avenues to create value on your boxes. Send in your clean cards of decent players to PSA or Beckett to add value.

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    Nice post. Return and all that mumbo jumbo are concentrated too heavily. Just have fun and break it. Plus there are other avenues to create value on your boxes. Send in your clean cards of decent players to PSA or Beckett to add value.


    It only adds value if somebody is prepared to pay for a high grade if that's what it gets. Remember, Canadians are the Hockey Collectors and most of us don't care about Graded cards.
    Last edited by centrehice; 04-20-2014 at 03:20 PM.

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