President cut signatures

[pwaldo]

Originally posted by stkmtimo
It's hard to believe the actual odds are 1:1.75 million. Anyway, the average Joe isn't going to throw down $100,000 for a signed document. Therefore the chances are better that the person pull a cut signature from a pack, making it a lot more accessible to the layperson.

Tim

BTW - Got the Lombardi cut today...great card!!

Yeah but I'd rather through down $100,000 for an actual President's Document then whatever a cut piece is going for.

You can buy the checks FOR A LOT LESS THAN WHAT THE CUT CARDS GO FOR.

So they really aren't making it available to more people. They are just BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU.

If they wanted to let everyone have a piece then they would shred the paper into dust and take it in an airplane and spread it all over the planet for everyone to enjoy and collect.

[stkmtimo]

Originally posted by pwaldo
Yeah but I'd rather through down $100,000 for an actual President's Document then whatever a cut piece is going for.

You can buy the checks FOR A LOT LESS THAN WHAT THE CUT CARDS GO FOR.

So they really aren't making it available to more people. They are just BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU BRAINWASHING YOU.

If they wanted to let everyone have a piece then they would shred the paper into dust and take it in an airplane and spread it all over the planet for everyone to enjoy and collect.

That's not really true. A George Washington signed check was sold for $20,000. If the cut signature card is a 1/1, it may go for that much.

Yes they are, as average people have an opportunity to pull it out of a $2 pack rather than spending a few thousand.

Don't quite understand this part, but OK. lol

Tim

[pwaldo]

Originally posted by stkmtimo
That's not really true. A George Washington signed check was sold for $20,000. If the cut signature card is a 1/1, it may go for that much.

Yes they are, as average people have an opportunity to pull it out of a $2 pack rather than spending a few thousand.

Don't quite understand this part, but OK. lol

Tim

So your a big fan of the lotto then.

All you have to do is pay $1 and you could win $200,000,000 dollars.

That's a lot better than getting a card that's only worth $20,000.

I'll tell you what.

Anybody on here can send me ONLY $10 and I will send then a CUT PIECE OF A $100 bill. THAT'S RIGHT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SPEND $10 TO GET A PIECE OF a $100.

You ask why I'm doing this special offer. Because I'm a nice guy and want everyone to experience a piece of money that not everyone in this country comes into daily contact with.

(Oh yeah the above was sarcasm for people on this board that can't tell that.)

I just don't get it. Your willing to pay money to get a shot at something that isn't even complete.

Do you buy a hubcap from a vintage muscle car because you will never be able to own a complete one? No.

Do you buy a window from a mansion because you will never own a complete one? No.

Do you buy a piece of a cut up jersey or of a piece of a historical document?
Yes.

Huh?



I don't get it. I just don't get it.

Think about it. In 10 years you people (card companies and collectors) are going to look around and see that there are NO MORE JERSEYS, BATS, OR AUTOGRAPHS TO CUT UP. What are you going to do then?

It just makes me sad. You can never bring a bat back that was used by Babe Ruth and there are only so many.

The companies will probably get desperate and give us game used sawdust and game used string cards when they start to run low.

Then they will have card that shows a picture of what a baseball bat or baseball jersey looked like.

Plus ™™™ is anybody interested in US HISTORY anyway? Its just a scam for them to dump a billion fun fact cards about history on the public while people search for the "golden ticket".

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[stkmtimo]

Originally posted by pwaldo
So your a big fan of the lotto then.

No, rarely ever play the lotto. It's a "loser's game".

All you have to do is pay $1 and you could win $200,000,000 dollars.

While this is true, the odds of winning the lottery are a lot worse than landing a cut signature of a President in 2004 Topps.

That's a lot better than getting a card that's only worth $20,000.

The odds of getting the $20,000 card are better than winning the lottery. Statistics show that you are more likely to pull the autograph cut than a winning lottery ticket.

I'll tell you what.

Anybody on here can send me ONLY $10 and I will send then a CUT PIECE OF A $100 bill. THAT'S RIGHT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SPEND $10 TO GET A PIECE OF a $100.

This example really doesn't make sense for the situation. A cut autograph is the actual SIGNATURE. While the content of a letter or document is important, the signature of the person is MOST important because that means the person is binded legally to the content of the legal document.

You ask why I'm doing this special offer. Because I'm a nice guy and want everyone to experience a piece of money that not everyone in this country comes into daily contact with.

Again, I really don't think this example makes sense, especially because MOST average people regularly come in contact with $100 bills.

(Oh yeah the above was sarcasm for people on this board that can't tell that.)

Understood.

I just don't get it. Your willing to pay money to get a shot at something that isn't even complete.

Yes, people are going into the product HOPING for the SIGNATURE, not the content of the manuscript, though it may be nice, companies are not capable of doing this given the standard size of a card.

Do you buy a hubcap from a vintage muscle car because you will never be able to own a complete one? No.

Again, a hubcap is not the most important part of a car.

Do you buy a window from a mansion because you will never own a complete one? No.

A window is not the most important part of a mansion.

Do you buy a piece of a cut up jersey or of a piece of a historical document?
Yes.

In this case, it is what binds the document and is what it is all about. It is also worth the MOST.

Huh?



I don't get it. I just don't get it.

Think about it. In 10 years you people (card companies and collectors) are going to look around and see that there are NO MORE JERSEYS, BATS, OR AUTOGRAPHS TO CUT UP. What are you going to do then?

Yes, athletes will still be using equipment so there will be jerseys and bats. However, the whole "legendary cuts" premise will come to an end soon.

It just makes me sad. You can never bring a bat back that was used by Babe Ruth and there are only so many.

Aside from the Hall of Fame, an average person could not have access to such memorabilia. In effect, now such items are being put in the collections of private collectors.

The companies will probably get desperate and give us game used sawdust and game used string cards when they start to run low.

They'll just use the current player's equipment or the like. Believe me, they'll come up with something.

Then they will have card that shows a picture of what a baseball bat or baseball jersey looked like.

I don't think that will happen, as people will still be using bats and jerseys in the coming years.

Plus ™™™ is anybody interested in US HISTORY anyway? Its just a scam for them to dump a billion fun fact cards about history on the public while people search for the "golden ticket".

It's not a scam. It can be a useful resource and fun in the process. While I'm not going to be putting hundreds down on this, I will buy a box or two as the cards look very interesting.

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Tim

[Molina00]

Originally posted by pwaldo


I hate to break it to you but the odds of getting that are 1 to 1.75 million.

At $3 a pack you'd have to spend almost 5 million dollars to get a piece of a document you could buy for a couple $100,000.

What!? Are they raising their pack prices?
They better not. $1.99 a pack is one of the main reasons I collect the regular Topps sets.

[pwaldo]

Originally posted by Molina00
What!? Are they raising their pack prices?
They better not. $1.99 a pack is one of the main reasons I collect the regular Topps sets.

This isn't about the regular Topps sets. You made the thread. You should know that....

[Justnuts]

[QUOTE]In 10 years you people (card companies and collectors) are going to look around and see that there are NO MORE JERSEYS, BATS, OR AUTOGRAPHS TO CUT UP[/QUOTE

I don't think I'm ready for naked baseball yet LOL :D

[supermegadork]

where's the love people?
I think what the other people are trying to say is that they are throwing in some items of significant historical meaning into packs and if you just happen to pull one, that is really cool. But, on the other side, if you are buying these packs only so you can try to get this card, you are a moron because they are inserted at astroniomical odds. I think I summed it all up, so please stop arguing. Just for me, please, pretty please with a cherry on top? :P

[stkmtimo]

Originally posted by supermegadork
where's the love people?
I think what the other people are trying to say is that they are throwing in some items of significant historical meaning into packs and if you just happen to pull one, that is really cool. But, on the other side, if you are buying these packs only so you can try to get this card, you are a moron because they are inserted at astroniomical odds. I think I summed it all up, so please stop arguing. Just for me, please, pretty please with a cherry on top? :P

Exactly my point. Thank you. If you pull one, consider yourself lucky, if not, no big deal!

Tim