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    Warning- Huge Grant Hill eBay rant....

    Okay

    I'm a Hill collector. I love my Grant Hill cards. I don't mind paying a bit more than usual to get something I really want.. I've probably spent close to $2000 on Hill cards since returning to the hobby (which is my date of joining this forum)

    But ™™™ is going on :(

    Case in point, a few minutes ago I lost an auction for an 06-07 SPGU 3 color patch /25.
    For background info, the same seller was selling a handful of other SPGU patch cards from the same set, same numbering, and similar colors. These auctions all ended a few minutes ago.

    Ben Wallace SPGU 3 color /25.. $18

    Tracy McGrady SPGU 3 color /25.. $20

    Kobe Bryant SPGU 3 color /25.. $30

    Jason Kidd SPGU 3 color 1/25.. $36.50

    Lebron James SPGU 2 color /25.. $43















    Grant Hill SPGU 3 color /25...... $52 ???



    Just to show this is no isolated incident..

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Kobe Bryant:
    Bowman Magenta plate $40

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Dwyane Wade:
    52 Style Black plate $72
    Topps Total Cyan plate $41

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Lebron James:
    Topps Total Plate $70
    Ultra plate $55

    Other notable 1 of 1 auctions:
    Topps First Row Allen Iverson/Chris Paul Plate $54
    Topps Total McGrady yellow plate $29

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Hill
    Topps First Row Cyan Plate $154
    Topps Total Yellow Plate $115
    Finest Superfractor $250+ (it has moved off the completed auctions though)


    In fact, the only printing plate that has actually sold for more than a Hill card recently was an autographed Shannon Elizabeth for $300. The closest was a Larry Bird plate from 92 Courtside (which ended at around 100).

    I mean... come on..........??

    What's insane is that it isn't one rich person overpaying for these cards, nor is it even 2, or 3, or 4... Either there is a glut of shills going after Hill auctions, or it happens to be an age of collecting where Hill cards only trail Jordans in terms of value on a per-set basis..

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    Hill is a very popular guy. I collected him for a time too and amassed 50 inserts, which are NFT. : )

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    Hey I understand that :P

    It just boggles my mind that his popularity would exceed that of Lebron or Kobe at this point in time.. Or we just have a few fanatical collectors that are out to complete some master collections or something..

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    This is also evident in the all star voting, he is 4th in eastern confrence forwards, I realize he used to be really good but come on now people... just my two cents, don't kill me grant hill fans...LOL
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    Don't underestimate the (purchasing) power of the hard-core player collector to drive prices of second-tier star cards to first-tier star levels. The idea that there would be hard-core Hill collectors with deep pockets out there doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Hill also has a bit of snob appeal in that he's a very classy guy.

    Consider also that comprehensive player collecting for megastars simply isn't feasible due to the volume and price of these cards. I'm a huge Tim Duncan fan but have never even attempted to collect his inserts because there's no point--the BV of his checklist imported into Beckett's MyCollections setup (which would not include values for the *really* high-end stuff that's too scarce to price) is five figures. And he's a half notch below Kobe, LeBron, et. al. I can only assume Hill's injuries have depleted his card checklist in an analagous way to which his actual career has been impeded, making it a more attainable goal.

    Those are my off-the-cuff thoughts.

    Peter G.

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    ^ Yeah I agree, sort of

    It just seems so crazy that a player like Grant Hill would dominate the secondary market for basically any card not in Exquisite..

    And it's only in recent years that Hill has had fewer cards out in circulation (and even then, he shows up in a majority of the sets released in some form); he is as difficult as any player to make a comprehensive collection out of, perhaps moreso because of the inflated prices..

    I really wish that price guides would take these things into account :[ but that's another rant entirely

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    Quote Originally Posted by tradebark
    Okay

    I'm a Hill collector. I love my Grant Hill cards. I don't mind paying a bit more than usual to get something I really want.. I've probably spent close to $2000 on Hill cards since returning to the hobby (which is my date of joining this forum)

    But ™™™ is going on :(

    Case in point, a few minutes ago I lost an auction for an 06-07 SPGU 3 color patch /25.
    For background info, the same seller was selling a handful of other SPGU patch cards from the same set, same numbering, and similar colors. These auctions all ended a few minutes ago.

    Ben Wallace SPGU 3 color /25.. $18

    Tracy McGrady SPGU 3 color /25.. $20

    Kobe Bryant SPGU 3 color /25.. $30

    Jason Kidd SPGU 3 color 1/25.. $36.50

    Lebron James SPGU 2 color /25.. $43















    Grant Hill SPGU 3 color /25...... $52 ???



    Just to show this is no isolated incident..

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Kobe Bryant:
    Bowman Magenta plate $40

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Dwyane Wade:
    52 Style Black plate $72
    Topps Total Cyan plate $41

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Lebron James:
    Topps Total Plate $70
    Ultra plate $55

    Other notable 1 of 1 auctions:
    Topps First Row Allen Iverson/Chris Paul Plate $54
    Topps Total McGrady yellow plate $29

    Recent 1 of 1 auctions for Hill
    Topps First Row Cyan Plate $154
    Topps Total Yellow Plate $115
    Finest Superfractor $250+ (it has moved off the completed auctions though)


    In fact, the only printing plate that has actually sold for more than a Hill card recently was an autographed Shannon Elizabeth for $300. The closest was a Larry Bird plate from 92 Courtside (which ended at around 100).

    I mean... come on..........??

    What's insane is that it isn't one rich person overpaying for these cards, nor is it even 2, or 3, or 4... Either there is a glut of shills going after Hill auctions, or it happens to be an age of collecting where Hill cards only trail Jordans in terms of value on a per-set basis..
    Wow, good post. As some people have mentioned... Grant Hill is very popular, which is one reason. Also, there are some people that will spend WAY TOO MUCH for a card than it's really worth. I don't know why though, they just do. It doesn't make sense. It's one thing to spend a few dollars more for something that you need for your PC, but when you are going to the extreme by spending 2 TIMES more than something's worth for your PC or just tradebait is LAME and POINTLESS. I hear ya, and I hope the best for you in your future bids on Grant Hill cards.

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    Well I suppose my complaint is that these people are not getting credit for what they've done

    In short, Hill cards SHOULD have higher BV's than those Kobes or Lebrons, especially when even in my limited research I've shown it to be true.

    Beckett just automatically ranks their Jordan > Lebron > Kobe > Wade > Everyone else prices and it is not representative of market value at all..

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    Bit of an update

    Sort of a good deal? lol

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9750&rd=1&rd=1

    Finally won one :) Waiting for it in the maillll

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    Some more ridiculous Hill stories to share:

    Grant Hill 97-98 Autographics Century Marks /100 BV$160
    Sale price.. $300 (possibly shilled, but then again who knows)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Skybox-Autograph...QQcmdZViewItem

    Grant Hill 98-99 Skybox Star Rubies /50 BV$90
    Sale price.. $130
    http://cgi.ebay.com/98-99-Skybox-Rub...QQcmdZViewItem

    There were also Star Rubies of Hill from 97-98 that sold for ~$130 (base) and ~$100 (subset)

    Grant Hill 98-99 Hoops Slam Bams /100 BV$80
    Sale price.. $89
    http://cgi.ebay.com/98-99-Hoops-Slam...QQcmdZViewItem

    Grant Hill 01-02 Fleer Focus ROY Collection Patch /99 BV$36
    Sale price.. $59.00
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Grant-Hill-01-02...QQcmdZViewItem

    Grant Hill 99-00 Skybox Club Vertical /100 BV$25
    Sale price.. $41.25
    http://cgi.ebay.com/GRANT-HILL-99-00...QQcmdZViewItem




    Now for some newer cards, comparing them with some of today's so-called "hit" star players

    Grant Hill 06-07 SPx Spectrum 16/25
    Sale price.. $42.50
    http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-07-UD-SPX-G...QQcmdZViewItem

    Kobe Bryant 06-07 SPx Spectrum 25/25
    Sale Price.. $43.50 (Both this and the Hill auction ended at $41, with the Kobe one charging $2.50 shipping)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/07-SPX-Spectrum-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Kobe Bryant 06-07 SPx Spectrum 24/25 (Jsy #)
    Sale Price.. $33.51
    http://cgi.ebay.com/KOBE-BRYANT-2006...QQcmdZViewItem

    Kobe Bryant 06-07 SPx Spectrum 15/25 (Jsy #)
    Sale Price.. $33
    http://cgi.ebay.com/06-07-SPX-Kobe-B...QQcmdZViewItem

    LeBron James 06-07 SPx Spectrum 1/25
    Sale Price.. $39.11 (ended at 34.11, with 5 bucks shipping)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Cavaliers-fans-0...QQcmdZViewItem

    Dwyane Wade 06-07 SPx Spectrum /25
    Sale Price.. $12.50
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Dwyane-Wade-2006...QQcmdZViewItem

    Carmelo Anthony 06-07 SPx Spectrum /25
    Sale Price.. $9.10
    http://cgi.ebay.com/07-SPx-19-CARMEL...QQcmdZViewItem



    To illustrate yet again..

    Grant Hill 06-07 Fleer Hot Prospects White Hot /15
    Sale price.. $83.50
    http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-07-Fleer-Ho...QQcmdZViewItem

    LeBron James 06-07 Hot Prospects White Hot /15
    Sale price.. $26.83
    http://cgi.ebay.com/06-07-HOT-PROSPE...QQcmdZViewItem

    Tracy McGrady 06-07 Hot Prospects White Hot /15
    Sale price.. $10.51
    http://cgi.ebay.com/06-07-HOT-PROSPE...QQcmdZViewItem

    Carmelo Anthony
    Sale price.. $4.50
    http://cgi.ebay.com/CARMELO-ANTHONY-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Tim Duncan
    Sale price.. $5.53
    http://cgi.ebay.com/TIM-DUNCAN-06-07...QQcmdZViewItem



    And hey just to say it's no fluke..

    Grant Hill Fleer EX Patch /75
    Sale Price.. $43.50
    http://cgi.ebay.com/06-07-Fleer-EX-C...QQcmdZViewItem

    Grant Hill Fleer EX Patch /75
    Sale Price.. $42.49
    http://cgi.ebay.com/07-EX-CLEARLY-AU...QQcmdZViewItem

    Kobe Bryant Fleer EX Patch /75
    Sale Price.. $47.50
    http://cgi.ebay.com/KOBE-BRYANT-3-CO...QQcmdZViewItem

    LeBron James Fleer EX Patch /75
    Sale Price.. $39.75
    http://cgi.ebay.com/06-07-Fleer-EX-L...QQcmdZViewItem

    Another Hill ended at $33.. and apart from that no other patch from the set (including Shaq, Chris Paul, KG, Pierce, Nash, Dwight Howard, and even a Lebron) went for over $25.


    Sometimes I think I chose the wrong player ;)
    Last edited by tradebark; 04-01-2007 at 07:45 AM.

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