What is BECKETT ???

[mart96]

If Beckett would only check the Ebay market, alot of card wouldn`t be valued that high in Beckett

Viper, I know Beckett is only a guide but I know buyers that attend the shows I sell, they need to know what beckett is giving as a value on a particular card before buying it.

Like they say in Beckett, local popularity of cards plays also in value and demand... I live near Ottawa, Canada and Sens, Canadiens and Leafs cards are far more popular that LA Kings cards...

[Olivertoxxin]

I saw a $10 lundqvist jeresy card go for $32.53 on ebay the other day.

[fdgowin]

and I've seen people sell stacks of cards at the National for the high book price, then seen the same card go down the next month. True collectors don't need a Beckett. If I don't like the price of a card, I don't buy it.

fdgowin

[CrosbyFan87]

If I can add a point, Ebay does reflect in Beckett values. For instance, Crosby YG was $200 forever... ebay sales starting selling extremely well, then boom, Beckett BV is $350.

Likewise, "Half BV" is almost a rule of thumb for buying online. If a card has a Beckett HIGH BV of $200, they're likely selling for $100 - $125. A few months later Beckett will reflect with a $150 BV, the cards sell at $75 - $90. A few months later, Beckett lists at $125.... you see where that is going.

Honestly, as a collector, I will pay whatever I have to for cards for my PC, whether it be half BV or 5 times BV (depending on cards of course). It's a guide and nothing else. Unfortunately, everyone uses it and IMO it has a negative impact on the hobby.

[OnePimpTiger]

I agree w/CrosbyFan....eBay does go off of Beckett BV just as much as anything else does...only at 1/3-1/2 of BV.

It's just like traders on here...you can trade cards BV/BV, but if you want to buy/sell, it's usually 1/3 BV. I guarantee if the Beckett BV of a card is cut in half one month, the eBay prices for that card will be cut in half as well.

I'm not saying I like this system, but it's the system that is, so I try my best to use it to my advantage. Beckett is like Wal-Mart...I hate Wal-Mart, but me not shopping there is not going to change a thing.

[UpNorthOutWest]

Book value has increasingly become irrelevant to me. I judge the value on a card by checking what it's sold for recently on eBay. Period. Now maybe the eBayers are using price guides to help them name their prices; I don't know.

And believe me, I'm aware often the news on eBay is bad. I've had some GU or cards sell at absolutely offensive final prices. I sold a 2006 SpX Muhsin Muhammad GU jersey card and a very nice-looking Muhammad autograph card together as a two-card lot recently. Sold for $3.25. Silly me; I thought Chicago was a rather large city, full of Bears fans that might actually have an interest in something like that.

But that's the law of the marketplace, I guess.

[02ViperACR]

Beckett is Not that Reliable of a Source ... PRICE wise ... think about it ... how many cards are out there??? its impossible to keep track of them all ... i really doubt beckett has 50,000 employees keeping track of all the sales ... they keep updated well on the Current KEY Rookies , but othere then that ...

If you want to know the Value of a card , its easy ,... go to ebay and see what they sold for ... thats there value ... what someone is willing to pay ...


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[OnePimpTiger]

Beckett basically does have thousands of "employees" helping them set BVs. They get reports from card shows, dealers and hobby store owners around the country, as well as checking websites and auction sites. Why do you think it takes 2-3 months after a product comes out to have it in Beckett? Because they do all this research from all around the country.

As far as checking the value of a card on eBay, people base what they're willing to pay on Beckett BV most of the time. If they see a card books for $20, they'll pay $7-10. Sometimes it varies as in the case of hot rookies or sets (ex Crosby and HTG autos/GUs), but for the most part it's a very close correlation.

Plus the fact that Beckett takes into account eBay sales when they are setting their BV. They don't just pull this number from out of the air...they do research including dealer/hobby store sales, website sales, auction sales which includes eBay. So eBay prices go into setting the BV and the BV goes into people's decisions on how much to buy something for on eBay. It's cyclical...and as much as a lot of people dislike it, including myself in many cases, it's a fact that isn't going to go away.

[ontario_oilerfan]

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[doniceage]

Different strokes for different folks. Use what makes you happy and that should be the bottom line if your happy with a deal. So who cares who uses what (beckett, ebay, charlton, tuff stuff, etc). As long as your happy with the price you paid or the trade you made does the other stuff shouldn't even play a factor.

p.s. Of course people sometimes lose the happiness factor when they become more educated down the line. Happines is the main thing if you get caught up in the prices you will be kicking yourself on too many occasions (I sold too soon, I didn't trade for enough in book value, I should have used ebay not naxcom, or a billion other things to complain about) BE HAPPY!!!

DON