One Angry Marine Responds To Harry Reid

[4xchamp24]

i bet the ones that didnt vote for him are the idiots who sign up just for the college money and dontthink they will get called to war..

What? I thought that John Kerry cleared the fact up that no one in the army went to or goes to college

[Chris]

lmao

[mikesilvia]

I am in the military and 90% of my unit voted for Bush. There are tons of resources on the net. How about disproving the 70 percent figure? 4-1 is 80%, so I under-reported it.

[tnopud42]

You made a statement that 70% of the military voted for Bush. It is you who needs to support your statement. The article in question does not say 80% voted for Bush. It's really not that difficult, just show me documentation that 70% voted for Bush.

[mikesilvia]

You made a statement that 70% of the military voted for Bush. It is you who needs to support your statement. The article in question does not say 80% voted for Bush. It's really not that difficult, just show me documentation that 70% voted for Bush.

Go back and post me a link to every fact you have posted on STC and I will go back and post a link supporting the 70%. Chris posted you an article and you instantly dismissed it. 4-1 is 80%, 10% higher than my number.

[stewart20rulz]

Most of my Squadron voted for Bush too! Very few troops who voted didn't vote against him as far as I know from what I heard around the election time...

[tnopud42]

I assume you read the article. Nowhere in there does it state 70% of the military voted for Bush. Please quote the line from the article that states that as a fact.

From the article -

"An unscientific survey of U.S. military personnel shows they support President Bush for re-election by a 4-to-1 ratio." Operative word UNSCIENTIFIC

"... 59% identified themselves as Republicans." Over half the respondents claimed to Republicans. Do you expect these individuals to vote for Kerry?

"Army Times Publishing sent e-mails to more than 31,000 subscribers and received 4,165 responses on a secure Web site. The publisher cautioned that the results are not a scientific poll. Its readers are older, higher in rank and more career-oriented than the military as a whole." Older, higher ranking individuals tend to be more conservative.

"Feaver said it's unlikely that Bush will receive 70% of votes cast by military personnel."

"Of survey respondents, 65% of active-duty and 67% of Guard and reserve troops said that Kerry's activities after Vietnam made them less likely to vote for him." Kerry's service record seems to be the motivating factor in determing candidate choice.

A strident minority: anti-Bush US troops in Iraq | csmonitor.com

Military Times Polls

CNN.com Election 2004

The final article involved 13,660 respondents and gave a military breakdown of 57% for Bush, 41% for Kerry.

Now your 70% military voting site?

[mikesilvia]

Since you are using surveys:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25656-2004Oct11.html

By an astonishing 72 to 17 percent margin, the active-duty military personnel who took the survey favored Bush over Kerry (Guard and Reserve respondents favored Bush, 73 to 18 percent). Frankly, the margin greatly exceeds anything that I or any other analyst had expected.

[Bondsaway]

I think we've gotten off the topic. Not sure why percentages are such a HOT topic!

[tnopud42]

Your article was written on Oct. 12, 2004 and quotes the same statistics from the Army Times survey (published on Oct. 3, 2004) that we discussed last night. Nothing new there. Same survey, different article.

For the sake of argument, assuming it was a different survey (which it isn't), it still doesn't say 70% of the military voted for Bush.

As for the CNN.com election 2004 I posted, these individuals were actually canvased as they left the voting areas. I would believe these figures are going to be more accurate than a survey 2-3 months prior to the elections. As I pointed out is shows a 56%-41% vote total in favor of Bush, not the 70% that has been stated.