The education system thread

[WilyWestbrook0]

I don't like the idea of Home-Schooling because kids need to socialize with others

tutall and I had a good discussion on this already. School is not the only arena of socialization for children. What about recreational programs, girl/boy scouts, summer camps, and other organized social settings? These all involve the same basic elements of socialization that school covers.

since many jobs have you working with other people, it's good to have great communication skills,

The irony is I was recommended for homeschooling by a public teacher because my verbal skills were considered "too advanced" and made other kids "feel bad" even though I was "nice" to them. I guess the public school system wasn't doing its job of teaching socialization properly to those students there, particularly in regards to dealing with people different from them in some skill.

Public school kids also but they shouldn't be that mad unless they get hurt physically, which many people don't, they just need to avoid and ignore the verbal actions others take against them and get over it because in the long run, the one's making fun of the kids will probably not be successful in life, but the one being made fun of, probably will.

People don't need public school in order to learn how to deal with "being made fun of" (some people who go to school every day never even learn this concept well anyhow, so it's hardly a prerequisite). That just comes with natural maturity and everyday social interactions, including those which come outside of school.

[tyude2]

People don't need public school in order to learn how to deal with "being made fun of" (some people who go to school every day never even learn this concept well anyhow, so it's hardly a prerequisite). That just comes with natural maturity and everyday social interactions, including those which come outside of school.

thats not what i said, i said thats not a reason to go to homeschooling

[WilyWestbrook0]

^OK, I see. I agree that's not a very good reason for choosing it.

Anyhow, I'll share some personal examples of other home-schooled people I know to add to the discussion.

There were two other people I knew of who, like me, had spent the majority of their pre-college years as home-schoolers. The one girl was naturally very extroverted and bubbly; you would have no idea she was apparently deprived of all the socialization traditional schooling offers. She was well-liked and a pretty good student in college. I believe she was home-schooled for religious reasons.

The other girl I knew was like me - a bit more reserved and organized. I think she was home-schooled because her family thought most schools dumbed down their educational standards too much. She excelled in every subject; I believe she graduated college with a perfect GPA. She now teaches English to Russians.

There are a host of other home-schooling results out there, including bad examples where someone was far too sheltered and ended up very awkward in their adult years. However, as I illustrated, there are many cases of successful home-schooling efforts as well, so I think it is a legitimate alternative to traditional education. Not everyone chooses it for the right reasons, but I think it should remain out there as a possibility.

[Aikman_TheGreat]

Its not THAT kids are homeschooled, its the WAY they are homeschooled.

I know plenty of kids that were homeschooled and are just fine in society, yet some who arent. I also know plenty of kids that went to traditional schools and ARENT doing well in society.

[leoliotigpan]

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[WilyWestbrook0]

Please keep in mind that my opinions are based on things I've heard or experienced in the area schools by me. I have limited knowledge about what is going on in the rest of the country's schools. I do not claim that my opinions below apply to the schools by other people.

I think that the Teacher Education programs need to be changed, and the reform math needs to be taken out of the schools (or made as an alternative, not the norm). Some schools need to have better/stricter discipline policies. The children that are constantly disruptive in class should be educated in a special program for similar kids, not kept in the regular classroom, where they are distracting others and wasting class time and resources.

Oh, and I am a strong supporter of homeschooling. Not for religious reasons, but because I feel that my husband and I can do a good job at educating our children. We plan to have a mix of book studies and "real life" studies, where we can take our kids on field trips to museums, parks, and the like to teach them things. We also would have them enroll at the YMCA, summer camp, sports programs, etc. Some schools boast of their small class sizes, which allow for more individual attention and one-on-one instruction. You can't get any more individualized instruction than homeschooling from your parents (in my opinion).

Thanks for your input. I remember my parents taking me on many trips when I was younger - museums, parks, etc. are a great interactive way for kids to learn about important subjects. Schools have field trips, but they can't cover all ground - so when parents can take children to educational places, it's very beneficial.

[tyude2]

Please keep in mind that my opinions are based on things I've heard or experienced in the area schools by me. I have limited knowledge about what is going on in the rest of the country's schools. I do not claim that my opinions below apply to the schools by other people.

I think that the Teacher Education programs need to be changed, and the reform math needs to be taken out of the schools (or made as an alternative, not the norm). Some schools need to have better/stricter discipline policies. The children that are constantly disruptive in class should be educated in a special program for similar kids, not kept in the regular classroom, where they are distracting others and wasting class time and resources.

Oh, and I am a strong supporter of homeschooling. Not for religious reasons, but because I feel that my husband and I can do a good job at educating our children. We plan to have a mix of book studies and "real life" studies, where we can take our kids on field trips to museums, parks, and the like to teach them things. We also would have them enroll at the YMCA, summer camp, sports programs, etc. Some schools boast of their small class sizes, which allow for more individual attention and one-on-one instruction. You can't get any more individualized instruction than homeschooling from your parents (in my opinion).

You make a very good point. That sort of reconstructs my opinion of home schooling although I'm still not in favor of it.

[tikitomoka]

Please keep in mind that my opinions are based on things I've heard or experienced in the area schools by me. I have limited knowledge about what is going on in the rest of the country's schools. I do not claim that my opinions below apply to the schools by other people.

I think that the Teacher Education programs need to be changed, and the reform math needs to be taken out of the schools (or made as an alternative, not the norm). Some schools need to have better/stricter discipline policies. The children that are constantly disruptive in class should be educated in a special program for similar kids, not kept in the regular classroom, where they are distracting others and wasting class time and resources.

Oh, and I am a strong supporter of homeschooling. Not for religious reasons, but because I feel that my husband and I can do a good job at educating our children. We plan to have a mix of book studies and "real life" studies, where we can take our kids on field trips to museums, parks, and the like to teach them things. We also would have them enroll at the YMCA, summer camp, sports programs, etc. Some schools boast of their small class sizes, which allow for more individual attention and one-on-one instruction. You can't get any more individualized instruction than homeschooling from your parents (in my opinion).

hit it right on the head

[tutall]

hit it right on the head

I think those policies would be in place if the courts would not interject and sue any teacher who looks at a student wrong. most teachers are afraid to say anything due to them being able to lose their job so easily

[tikitomoka]

I think those policies would be in place if the courts would not interject and sue any teacher who looks at a student wrong. most teachers are afraid to say anything due to them being able to lose their job so easily

i dont think that applies to all districts though. my district is very strict policy-wise, and everything runs smoothly here. there are never any major problems here (there are going to be a few fights etc. everywhere).