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06-27-2003, 02:45 AM #11
That's why BC and Syracuse were important to the equation....now the ACC is trying to save face, but that won't save them from this lawsuit.....
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06-27-2003, 03:05 AM #12
well that said then, i almost dont agree with this move. the ACC in basketball is the premier league, original teams and the longest running conference chanpionship. adding va tech who is usually very weak in bball and miami who is somewhat decent, tarnishes this. i dont think the football gain is enough, its gotta be the $$$$$$$$$.
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06-27-2003, 03:14 AM #13
It's always been the money, but Swofford is smart enough not to admit it....even though everything revolves around a conference championship game in football...rumors have it that the ACC may try to talk to Notre Dame about becoming the 12th team down the road....which I can't figure out....ND will never leave independent status in football, so what's the point....
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06-27-2003, 03:18 AM #14
well, could they swing a deal to keep the NBC contract with ND for home games and join the ACC as the 12th team too. the away games will be handled by conference or national TV. its works for both teams, accept ND wouldnt have its BCS clause anymore. with FSU, miami, va tech at least, they probably wouldnt go for that in football. i see a better possibility as them going to the big east in football, with the 2 premier teams gone, if ND is all they cracked up to be, they should be BCS each year.
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06-27-2003, 03:24 AM #15
ND will never leave the independent status because:
1. They lose the NBC deal. It is drawn up to televised the home games because of number 2.
2. ND would have to give up playing one of the toughest schedules in the country and schedule teams like Rutgers from the Big E or Duke from the ACC.
3. The guaranteed BCS spot possiblity if they have a 10 win season.
4. Revenue sharing that they will have to undertake by joining a league. ND is one of the most profitable college football teams in the country solely because they do not have to share revenue with anyone.
ND loses majorly by giving up indeppendent status, so it will never happen...
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06-27-2003, 10:56 AM #16
the basketball part i agree with it will bring the best basketball conference with duke and maryland down. but as far as football goes i will be willing to bet anything that the average revenue for each team and the acc +miami +va. tech will increase by at least 5% and when you making about 5.5 mil ,as you say which is off big time especially if clemson can make 2.65 mill in one game, thats alot
SO TELL MIAMI AND VA TECH TO COME ON OVER
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06-27-2003, 11:03 AM #17
It's all about conference revenue... not per school revenue. The conference makes money also and that revenue is split evenly between all the schools in the conference like the money they get from their TV deal. It makes no difference how much each shool pulls in per home game... and sure a school might sellout because Miami is coming in, but for everyone of those sellouts, there's also going to be a drop off where a team doesn't play FSU so everything in the long run stays equal.
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06-27-2003, 11:18 AM #18
well if everything is going to stay the same then you have everyone getting what they usually get or maybe even more since the big 12 was larger and now the big east teams are making more money because theres less teams. plus you have one very strong conference prepared to reak havoc on all other teams i gaurantee that an if miami and va. tech comes to the acc we will have 4 teams in the top 10 to start the year.
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06-27-2003, 11:41 AM #19
Who? FSU is not a Top10 team and won't be able to lose 4 games and make a BCS bowl ever again. VaTech isn't a Top10 program as they play a weak schedule losing to both Pitt and Miami the last 2 years. NCSt is going to be a good team but saying right now Top10 is a stretch. Miami lost a ton of players again this past year so although they probably will be good again this year, there's no guarantee especially with a new field general.
As far as finances go, they won't get what they usually get. Your adding 2 more teams into the mix to split revenue but you're not adding revenue into the conference. Do you know even though the ACC pulled in one of the most money for conferences last year, only FSU, Duke, and UNC made a profit or broke even? What's going to happen to the smaller schools who lost money this year and are going to lose even more next year because Miami and VaTech are going to get a share of their loot? The ACC's banking big time on a big new TV contract and Conference Championship... 2 things that won't happen for another 3+ years!
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06-27-2003, 05:47 PM #20
Iggy's right...the economics suffers hard...The ACC's money maker right now is basketball and they about to dilute the product. Every year, FSU away games sell out...and that benefits FSU as well as the ACC because everyone gets a piece of the pie. It's all contained in profit sharing...That's the only game Duke sells out every two years if they are lucky. With Duke's pathetic team year in and year out, it drags the profit margin down. The Dookies won't pay to see Va. Tech or Miami so that's more money lost because the "profits" go to 11 teams instead of the current 9. The Big 12 always has quality teams, usually 6 to 7 and that's why they do so well, plus they have the Conference Championship game.
As far as for top 10 teams, the ACC will be lucky to have 4 in the top 20...If both joined, Miami would probably just make the top 10...then it would be NCSU, Maryland, and possibly FSU in the top 20.
In order for this to work for the ACC, they have got to get that 12th team and they need to quit looking in South Bend, because it ain't gonna happen...The ACC will probably have to settle for ECU, which is really gonna hurt the basketball product because they would be put in the South Division with Wake, Clemson, GA Tech, Miami, FSU. The power would be up in the North Division which would have Maryland, VA Tech, UVA, Duke, UNC, and NCSU. Unfortunately, that means those teams will beat on one another and the ACC won't see the five or six NCAA bids they are used to for a while...
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