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    lol cheap shots by boston?
    what about joke-inen rapping chara across the ankle and then laughing bout it?

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    The fight was going to happen sooner or later. The refs have been letting Boston get away with way too many cheap shots... it was only a matter of time.

    Cheapshots?!?! You mean like the slash to the ankle of Chara by Jokinen. Not sure what games you have been watching but I haven't seen many cheapshots by the Bruins.

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    Haven't you guys learned yet whenever to teams play in the playoffs one teams fans are gonna say the other team is playing dirty, getting lucky, cheap shots etc... and the other teams fans are gonna say the same.

    Hence fdp79 - saying boston had cheap shots

    and bruinsfan saying know way what about jokinens cheap shot.

    lol and I can just see the posts now....."But they really were playing dirty and my team wasnt!!!!"

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    its common courtesy / ettiquette you dont throw bare knuckle punches before the other guy drops the gloves. I think he should be further disciplined.

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    NHL Players need to cover up at all times and learn to protect themselves. I agree with the instigation, but I'm not sure about a suspension. I will say that if the league suspends him its casue of the injury that took place.

    The league these days seems to make suspensions based on the injury that occurs after the fact. I wish the league would look at the action of the player, rather than the result of the victim.

    Just like last year when Randy Jones hit Bergeron from behind. He didn't mean to hit him, and he knows he shouldnt have. If Bergeron wasn't hurt, it wouldn't have made a difference in the resulting suspension, the league wouldn't have even reviewed it. The league hears there is an injury and then they review it further. It just doesn't seem right.

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    NHL Players need to cover up at all times and learn to protect themselves. I agree with the instigation, but I'm not sure about a suspension. I will say that if the league suspends him its casue of the injury that took place.

    The league these days seems to make suspensions based on the injury that occurs after the fact. I wish the league would look at the action of the player, rather than the result of the victim.

    Just like last year when Randy Jones hit Bergeron from behind. He didn't mean to hit him, and he knows he shouldnt have. If Bergeron wasn't hurt, it wouldn't have made a difference in the resulting suspension, the league wouldn't have even reviewed it. The league hears there is an injury and then they review it further. It just doesn't seem right.

    Rich, i was thinking the same thing. Why else would Boston be getting the doctors projected diagnoses out to the media within hours of the game being over. We know they don't like disclosing injuries very often. They got it out ASAP to weigh into Campbell's decision.

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    I disagree that the injury shouldn't be taken into account, are you saying that every check from behind should carry a suspension with it? Then people would be complaining that the league suspends people too much and that they are going to lose their hardcore fans because the game is too soft. Then you suspend people who cheap shot someone and they are out for weeks because of it and people complain he was only suspended because of the injury. They make the game a free for all and have no suspensions, mind as well take away penalties altogether and people would be complaining as soon as their favorite player is decapitated on ice.. So which is it?

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    I disagree that the injury shouldn't be taken into account, are you saying that every check from behind should carry a suspension with it? Then people would be complaining that the league suspends people too much and that they are going to lose their hardcore fans because the game is too soft. Then you suspend people who cheap shot someone and they are out for weeks because of it and people complain he was only suspended because of the injury. They make the game a free for all and have no suspensions, mind as well take away penalties altogether and people would be complaining as soon as their favorite player is decapitated on ice.. So which is it?

    Great question but thats for the league big wigs to answer. All i know is Campbell has been on the record saying that he takes the severity of the outcome into account.

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    I'm not saying that every check from behind should be a suspension. What Im saying is, sometimes a player lands awkwardly, or is turning already which causes it to look worse than it is, but if that player gets injured hte league doesn't seem to care that the HITTING player didn't check them that hard.

    Sometimes the CHECKING player will hit them furiously hard, and the victim of the hit will NOT get hurt, so the league doesn't do anything.

    It just seems that an injury (no matter how vicious) will push along the leagues obligation to suspend a player, when they need to look at the ENTIRE act, not the result of that action.

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    Well I feel the league did answer the question and went with what is currently being enforced. I saw the hit on Bergeron brought up before, and while the hit may not have been intentionally trying to ram Bergeron's face into the boards, he did it, and its against the rules and its an extremely dangerous play which Bergeron paid for. A team lost a player for a good portion of a season because another player broke a rule and I think it is fair that the offending player is punished in some way aside from a 2 minute penalty. Obviously unfortunate things happen, and I think there was only a 3 or 4 game suspension in that incident. In that case the action and result were taken into account, you look at Chris Simon's 2 hander suspension he got like 25 games and there was no injury result and Boulerice got a 20 gamer for a blatant crosscheck to the face I dont think there was an injury on that play. I mean the only thing really seperating this play from a Bertuzzi incident is that the guys were both facing each other. But one guy still decided to throw a punch when the other wasnt willing to fight.

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