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    game worn? honestly i looked at the upperdeck website....and found nothing...im probably blind.

    Ahhaaaaa,problem solved

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    Here's the Rose base rookie auto from Black and Ultimate,both with Photo shoot memorabilia. You really think the Ultimate looks better than the Black?



    patches yes...jerseys they are about equal....and also ultimate doesnt get dinged up compared to ud black which alot of breaks have come with damaged cards due to the set being all black and thick.

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    Ahhaaaaa,problem solved


    but are they game worn? bBUHAHAHAHAHA lol

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    MoneyCards- yes that Rose Black is nice but over half of the rookie auto jerseys and black autos in general are SMUDGED! I have not seen any smudged cards from Ultimate!

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    MoneyCards- yes that Rose Black is nice but over half of the rookie auto jerseys and black autos in general are SMUDGED! I have not seen any smudged cards from Ultimate!


    yea i was saying that two post ago...the damage that comes with ud black or can be had with those cards are too much of a risk.

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    isnt damage that same risk for all cards regardless of it being UD or Fleer?
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    isnt damage that same risk for all cards regardless of it being UD or Fleer?

    no have you seen ud black cards in person? first they are thick so one mistake and it shows,secondly the card is all satin like black and shows every fingerprint possible and the edges of the card show damage alot more in contrast to the white under the black.

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    no have you seen ud black cards in person? first they are thick so one mistake and it shows,secondly the card is all satin like black and shows every fingerprint possible and the edges of the card show damage alot more in contrast to the white under the black.

    yes i've seen Ud Black in Person, i Personally Own 2 Carmelo Anthony Autos # to 50 or lower and a Dual Gu of Carmelo and i dont see the problem that your encountering, i just think you or anyone needs to take a little more time when trying to put them into a protector of some kind and make sure you have the right size sleeve for them, you cannot use the (2 5/8 X 3 5/8) Sleeve's as they will chip off the Edge's if you try and squeeze them in.

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    yes i've seen Ud Black in Person, i Personally Own 2 Carmelo Anthony Autos # to 50 or lower and a Dual Gu of Carmelo and i dont see the problem that your encountering, i just think you or anyone needs to take a little more time when trying to put them into a protector of some kind and make sure you have the right size sleeve for them, you cannot use the (2 5/8 X 3 5/8) Sleeve's as they will chip off the Edge's if you try and squeeze them in.

    no what i meant was they have a wayyyy higher chance of coming damaged in the pack then ultimate. and also if you dont take care of it as you said.

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    Yes I agreed as most of the collectors in Hong Kong who burst Ultimate has a crying face , unless u opened a few packs & got a Mojo hit , otherwise u wanted to kill yourself (such as how come a ten-player BULLS jersey / patch w/o Jordan ??)

    We (most of the collectors) knew that u can make a profit for a hobby, but I think no one want to spend USD1000 & get back a value of 1/5 or less

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