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[AUTaxMan]

Anybody seen it? I know the guy has a dorky sense of humor and gets way too emotional at times, but if you actually watch the guy's show and listen to what he says instead of letting the media make your opinion for you, I don't see how you can't like him and respect his message.

[sanfran22]

It's a pay site isn't it? He's a little over the top for me (except I liked his tv show), but his message is pretty on-target......
I prefer Dennis Prager, Ibbitson, Thomas Sowell, John Gibson, and if I'm feeling pretty down on the libtards Andrew Wilkow, lol.....

[pghin08]

I used to tune into Beck's show at least once or twice a week when he was on CNN and Fox. I will say this about the man, he believes what he says. He's not the least bit disingenuous.

He is, however, a nutjob. He is Joseph McCarthy reincarnated. His fear of anything different than himself pervades his every thought and completely skews his worldview. Remember, this is once a guy who asked Keith Ellison, a Muslim Congressman (I'm paraphrasing here) "I like Muslims, but prove to me that you aren't working with our enemies". What Beck knows very well is what comments like that implies to his viewers. It's as if he's telling them, "Hey, there's a Muslim conspiracy to take over the US". And these people believe this.

And respect his message? This is a guy who once called President Obama a racist. If someone were to base-lessly say that about George Bush (oh, I don't know, like some guy named Kanye West), he would be vilified. Yet Beck gets away with it. He gets away with saying ridiculous things like comparing the youth camp in Norway where those terrible murders occurred to Hitler's Nazi Germany.

He's not without his counterparts. I throw people like Lawrence O'Donnell and Keith Olbermann in that camp, though I usually don't find their rhetoric as incendiary. These people are not newsmen, they simply spin news to fit their own agendas. The reason that Beck is dangerous, and I don't say that facetiously, I mean it; is because many people in our country turn to him as their main source of news. Beck's power outweighs Olbermann, O'Donnell, etc. because he has a far larger and more loyal audience. So when Beck says something, like it or not, it has ramifications.

The brilliant and reasonable conservative commentator David Frum has faced a storm of criticism in recent years for his views on Beck (Earlier this year, he actually called Beck a "circus act"). In response to this, a significant group of people go around saying that Frum is a fake conservative, predominately because he doesn't like Glenn Beck. This, of course, is baseless and ridiculous. Frum was a speechwriter under GWB, and has written many pro-conservative books (not to mention his unreal academic credentials). But because he was critical of Glenn Beck, he's a phony. THAT'S the power that Beck has. And it is unrivaled in today's media.

And before I get vilified on here, I'm NOT someone who rails against every talking head out there in the political world that doesn't agree with me. I'm just someone that happens to think that of those people, Glenn Beck is the most wildly misinformed and the most outlandish.

[AUTaxMan]

It's a pay site isn't it? He's a little over the top for me (except I liked his tv show), but his message is pretty on-target......
I prefer Dennis Prager, Ibbitson, Thomas Sowell, John Gibson, and if I'm feeling pretty down on the libtards Andrew Wilkow, lol.....

It's a pay site ($5 a month), but you can sign up for a 14-day free trial.

[ensbergcollector]

I used to tune into Beck's show at least once or twice a week when he was on CNN and Fox. I will say this about the man, he believes what he says. He's not the least bit disingenuous.

He is, however, a nutjob. He is Joseph McCarthy reincarnated. His fear of anything different than himself pervades his every thought and completely skews his worldview. Remember, this is once a guy who asked Keith Ellison, a Muslim Congressman (I'm paraphrasing here) "I like Muslims, but prove to me that you aren't working with our enemies". What Beck knows very well is what comments like that implies to his viewers. It's as if he's telling them, "Hey, there's a Muslim conspiracy to take over the US". And these people believe this.

And respect his message? This is a guy who once called President Obama a racist. If someone were to base-lessly say that about George Bush (oh, I don't know, like some guy named Kanye West), he would be vilified. Yet Beck gets away with it. He gets away with saying ridiculous things like comparing the youth camp in Norway where those terrible murders occurred to Hitler's Nazi Germany.

He's not without his counterparts. I throw people like Lawrence O'Donnell and Keith Olbermann in that camp, though I usually don't find their rhetoric as incendiary. These people are not newsmen, they simply spin news to fit their own agendas. The reason that Beck is dangerous, and I don't say that facetiously, I mean it; is because many people in our country turn to him as their main source of news. Beck's power outweighs Olbermann, O'Donnell, etc. because he has a far larger and more loyal audience. So when Beck says something, like it or not, it has ramifications.

The brilliant and reasonable conservative commentator David Frum has faced a storm of criticism in recent years for his views on Beck (Earlier this year, he actually called Beck a "circus act"). In response to this, a significant group of people go around saying that Frum is a fake conservative, predominately because he doesn't like Glenn Beck. This, of course, is baseless and ridiculous. Frum was a speechwriter under GWB, and has written many pro-conservative books (not to mention his unreal academic credentials). But because he was critical of Glenn Beck, he's a phony. THAT'S the power that Beck has. And it is unrivaled in today's media.

And before I get vilified on here, I'm NOT someone who rails against every talking head out there in the political world that doesn't agree with me. I'm just someone that happens to think that of those people, Glenn Beck is the most wildly misinformed and the most outlandish.

this is not a defense of beck, i honestly haven't ever see his show. However, how can you see any clip from the church obama attended for over a decade and not come away thinking the guy is racist? I know I am opening myself up here but if I attended a church where the preacher was constantly making our church more about race then God, I would leave. Obama didn't which implies he agreed to some degree.

[pghin08]

this is not a defense of beck, i honestly haven't ever see his show. However, how can you see any clip from the church obama attended for over a decade and not come away thinking the guy is racist? I know I am opening myself up here but if I attended a church where the preacher was constantly making our church more about race then God, I would leave. Obama didn't which implies he agreed to some degree.

I'll put it this way. I'm a non-Catholic. However, I attended a Catholic University for undergrad (which I loved immensely, but that's beside the point). There were codes and belief structures there that I did not identify or agree with. So should I have disavowed the university because they said or did something that I didn't necessarily believe? No, of course not. In fact, if we did that, which is to remove yourself from an association because of one or a few disagreements, we probably would never stay in the same churches/schools/workplaces, what have you.

So even though I went to a Catholic university, does that mean I ascribe myself to all views of Catholicism? Far from it. You can be part of broad organizations such as churches, universities and companies all while not being a 100% supporter of every idea, person, decision or belief.

[duane1969]

this is not a defense of beck, i honestly haven't ever see his show. However, how can you see any clip from the church obama attended for over a decade and not come away thinking the guy is racist? I know I am opening myself up here but if I attended a church where the preacher was constantly making our church more about race then God, I would leave. Obama didn't which implies he agreed to some degree.

I see where you are coming from and agree with you. However, in his defense, I don't think that Obama was an "every time the doors are open" type of congregation member either. My guess is that his appearances were more about being seen in church and appearing to be part of the community than going to church to hear the message. More often than not he was probably daydreaming the entire sermon about some day when he would be supreme ruler over Socialist Amer...err, be president.

[duane1969]

So even though I went to a Catholic university, does that mean I ascribe myself to all views of Catholicism?

Yes.

Just give it a few minutes and either GBM or veggie will be in to explain your new religious nut classification.

I couldn't resist...

[pghin08]

Yes.

Just give it a few minutes and either GBM or veggie will be in to explain your new religious nut classification.

I couldn't resist...

I always knew that deep down, I was a religious zealot

[sanfran22]

I'll put it this way. I'm a non-Catholic. However, I attended a Catholic University for undergrad (which I loved immensely, but that's beside the point). There were codes and belief structures there that I did not identify or agree with. So should I have disavowed the university because they said or did something that I didn't necessarily believe? No, of course not. In fact, if we did that, which is to remove yourself from an association because of one or a few disagreements, we probably would never stay in the same churches/schools/workplaces, what have you.

So even though I went to a Catholic university, does that mean I ascribe myself to all views of Catholicism? Far from it. You can be part of broad organizations such as churches, universities and companies all while not being a 100% supporter of every idea, person, decision or belief.

I see going to a Catholic university and going to a church as two total different things. I went to Ohio State and I had disagreements with alot of my teaches (comp studies, psych ect). I was going there to get an education for a job. A church is a spiritual education if you will. You go there to grow in your faith. If you didn't believe it, why would you attend it? Unless it was for show like previously stated....