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[sanfran22]

That's not my whole point though. My point is that you can disagree with certain aspects of a church or any other organization, but their core beliefs bring you a sense of peace and understanding. Though truly, universities and churches aren't wildly different. Like you said, both are educational and you are free to leave a university just the same way that you can a church.

And to address the "church for show" issue. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. I don't doubt that he's religious in ways, but I don't think that his faith really guides his politics.

But you are not going to a church to get job training as in college. You are going to the two for totally different reasons. That's why I could go to OSU, but I wouldn't be going to a Catholic church.

[pghin08]

But you are not going to a church to get job training as in college. You are going to the two for totally different reasons. That's why I could go to OSU, but I wouldn't be going to a Catholic church.

So? It doesn't matter what your end goal is. The fact is that they are two institutions to which you have a choice of whether or not you'd like to attend them based on their ideologies, effectiveness, whatever reason you'd have.

[sanfran22]

So? It doesn't matter what your end goal is. The fact is that they are two institutions to which you have a choice of whether or not you'd like to attend them based on their ideologies, effectiveness, whatever reason you'd have.

I think it does. I can handle a secular school, not gonna tolerate a church that doesn't line up with my beliefs.....

[mrveggieman]

No, whole nations of people subscribe to that theory. I don't think whole nations subscribe to the Fallwells or Phelps ect... Once more, look at the two religions and draw your own conclusions. Compare the life of Jesus to that of Mohammed and lmk what you find. Both were considered "prophets" by Islam. Compare the teachings and instructions. Compare the overall treatment of people... You really have to figure this out. As I have hashed out a thousand times for those that are either ignorant or refuse to listen. One religion teaches conversion by force and another conversion by love and witness. How anyone could compare the two religions is asinine. There is only one, true way. If you don't believe that, don't call yourself Christian.

No disrespect but if I want to learn about Islam I will go to a true muslim not someone who has an agenda against muslims. Just like if I want to learn christanity I will go to a true christian not someone with an agenda.

[DaClyde]

Glenn Beck must either have multiple personality disorder or be seriously bi-polar or something. At times, he was the most level-headed, reasonable person on Fox. At others, he was tying absolutely everyone to Hitler, George Soros or both. It seems like there is a brilliant man in there somewhere being held prisoner by a crazy person.

[habsheaven]

Nobody on this board is or has ever to my knowledge lumped all Muslims together as extremists. Many, many times, conservatives on this board have pointed out this FACT to you. You need to get it through your thick skull that the conservatives on this board do not believe this, even though you want to think we do.

Perhaps you should read the post directly before yours before you make this claim again. Sanfran22 just told us "whole nations of people" subscribe to Bin Laden's "theory".

[pghin08]

I think it does. I can handle a secular school, not gonna tolerate a church that doesn't line up with my beliefs.....

Are you a churchgoer? If so, do you 100% agree with everything that goes on in that church?

[AUTaxMan]

Perhaps you should read the post directly before yours before you make this claim again. Sanfran22 just told us "whole nations of people" subscribe to Bin Laden's "theory".

That's the same as saying "all Muslims are extremists"? Wasn't he was merely saying that there are a lot of people on the extremist side of Muslim politics? Isn't this evident by the violence occurring throughout the Muslim world?

[sanfran22]

No disrespect but if I want to learn about Islam I will go to a true muslim not someone who has an agenda against muslims. Just like if I want to learn christanity I will go to a true christian not someone with an agenda.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for sharing....

[AUTaxMan]

Are you a churchgoer? If so, do you 100% agree with everything that goes on in that church?

Is your point that just because you attend a church does not mean that you subscribe to all of its teachings?