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    The difference here is that Obama's church is the model church of Black Liberation Theology. Obama may not support everything Rev. Wright has preached in the past, but it does not change the fact that the overall mission of the church of which he was a long-standing member is to teach that whites oppress blacks, that God is on the side of the blacks, and that the only way to remedy black oppression is through some sort of social justice/government-forced means of socialism.


    Please show me the factual basis for this statement. I will be glad to shower you with facts supporting the statement I made.
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    Please show me the factual basis for this statement. I will be glad to shower you with facts supporting the statement I made.


    http://www.nndb.com/people/558/000022492/

    There's plenty more where that came from.

    I was actually quoting this from our friend the taxman.
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    The difference here is that Obama's church is the model church of Black Liberation Theology. Obama may not support everything Rev. Wright has preached in the past, but it does not change the fact that the overall mission of the church of which he was a long-standing member is to teach that whites oppress blacks, that God is on the side of the blacks, and that the only way to remedy black oppression is through some sort of social justice/government-forced means of socialism.


    I think you're misunderstanding their mission a little bit. The church was created almost in response to the radical black Muslim leaders of the day. It's not that they teach that whites oppress blacks and that there needs to be some kind of racial warfare. It seems to me that their message is more "God loves the poor" than anything else. Which according to what I know from the bible, is true.

    Frankly, I don't hold Obama's religion to be of great importance. Like I've said, I don't think he governs on his faith.

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    That's the same as saying "all Muslims are extremists"? Wasn't he was merely saying that there are a lot of people on the extremist side of Muslim politics? Isn't this evident by the violence occurring throughout the Muslim world?

    He says MULTIPLE nations. That's alot closer to "all Muslims are extremists" than it is to the truth. No, it is not evident. The violence occurring in the Middle East has nothing to do with the masses of people or their Muslim faith. Why would you even think that?

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    Please show me the factual basis for this statement. I will be glad to shower you with facts supporting the statement I made.

    I'm sure you won't read the article, but this guy wrote a book on the subject.

    http://www.acton.org/pub/commentary/...ation-theology

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    He says MULTIPLE nations. That's alot closer to "all Muslims are extremists" than it is to the truth. No, it is not evident. The violence occurring in the Middle East has nothing to do with the masses of people or their Muslim faith. Why would you even think that?

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    I think you're misunderstanding their mission a little bit. The church was created almost in response to the radical black Muslim leaders of the day. It's not that they teach that whites oppress blacks and that there needs to be some kind of racial warfare. It seems to me that their message is more "God loves the poor" than anything else. Which according to what I know from the bible, is true.

    Frankly, I don't hold Obama's religion to be of great importance. Like I've said, I don't think he governs on his faith.

    Actually, I think the way he governs is pretty much in line with that faith/philosophy, though he would never openly admit it.

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    http://www.nndb.com/people/558/000022492/

    There's plenty more where that came from.

    I was actually quoting this from our friend the taxman.

    Where in there does it say anything about governing the country or taking us back to jim crow?

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    I never said every Muslim wants to blow us up. I do constantly say the religion is not how your type would portray. It is not a religion of peace. It is a false religion with an evil man as their "prophet". What good could come out of a religion that is not the one true God?. You guys need to quit making assumptions.

    You implied it by quoting mrveggieman's comment about Bin Laden with a response that "whole nations of people" follow that theory. That is not an assumption on my part. That is what you said. The implication was clear.

    What is my "type"?

    "True" and "God" do not belong in the same sentence. Talk about assumptions.

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    "True" and "God" do not belong in the same sentence.

    This statement serves no other purpose than to be inflammatory. It is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

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