Police rant!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mrveggieman]

What I should have said is that the every day cop is not a coward of course there is always that 1% in any group but the cop in OP's original post does not fit the coward name tag.

"If you have to carry a gun around (cop or criminal) in order to feel like a man, cannot handle your business on your own and have to pick on people weaker than you to make you feel better about yourself you are a coward bottom line."

^^^trust me that is the 1% of cops the majority are no where near that. Media seems to only highlight the 1% of bad cops with the police brutality and stories like that because it gets attention. You rarely see the news portraying a normal cop on a normal days routine the only thing that gets shown are the bad examples.

Don't get me wrong there are a couple of cops in my fam as well as one of my best friends growing up is a cop but I would have to say the number is a little higher than 1%. IMO the police need to do a better job policing themselves so they the public wont think that all cops are like the "1%".

[MattDMC]

Don't get me wrong there are a couple of cops in my fam as well as one of my best friends growing up is a cop but I would have to say the number is a little higher than 1%. IMO the police need to do a better job policing themselves so they the public wont think that all cops are like the "1%".

Okay maybe 1% was a little low lets say 5-10%

Op just struck a nerve with me when he called the cop that pulled him over a coward.

Its a shame that the 5-10% have ruined it for the rest of the cops. The public sees one cop act as a coward suddenly we're all cowards who do nothing but hide behind their badge and gun. You actually hear it quite a bit when OP said it it wasn't the first time I've seen innocent cops classified as something they're not.

Heck I've only been working with my PD for 3 months as an intern recruit and at least 3-4 days a week you get someone who shows no respect and starts busting out the names and insults. Why can't anyone ever just accept they got caught doing something wrong and man up? Why does everyone have to be a dick and and actually believe they were right and the cop was just ticketing them because they have a badge and can?

[mrveggieman]

Okay maybe 1% was a little low lets say 5-10%

Op just struck a nerve with me when he called the cop that pulled him over a coward.

Its a shame that the 5-10% have ruined it for the rest of the cops. The public sees one cop act as a coward suddenly we're all cowards who do nothing but hide behind their badge and gun. You actually hear it quite a bit when OP said it it wasn't the first time I've seen innocent cops classified as something they're not.

Heck I've only been working with my PD for 3 months as an intern recruit and at least 3-4 days a week you get someone who shows no respect and starts busting out the names and insults. Why can't anyone ever just accept they got caught doing something wrong and man up? Why does everyone have to be a dick and and actually believe they were right and the cop was just ticketing them because they have a badge and can?

Yes the percentage of bad cops have ruined it for all the good ones. However the cops have to start checking each other. First of all stop with the blue wall of science. Cops are not or shouldn't be street thugs who live by the no snitching code. Cops are paid by tax payers to enforce the law not cover up for their buddies.

[MattDMC]

Does everyone realize that people lie to the police all the time? I wonder how many times that particular officer has heard the "I was checking my clock" statement? Not saying the OP was lying, but just pointing out the other side of the story.

I do agree that there are bad cops out there. I was just trying to look at things from the cops perspective of having legit reasons to pull the OP over. There may be "cowards" on the force but I still don't think lloydr04 has legitimate experience to call this officer a coward just from the OPs statements of the run ins with him.

As for the no texting law in general, we just got it but it's really weird because the law in indiana is only for texting so legally you can do other things on your phone while driving. I find these laws tricky because with the amount of things your phone does these days you can be messing with it and not texting at all. I do see where it gives police officers a lot more reason to pull people over where these no texting laws are. I guess the safest thing is to no even touch them while driving as to not look like you are texting.

I love the first part of your response LOL.

Trust me you can tell the cops any excuse you want true or not the cop isn't going to believe you (not saying the checking the time was a lie or not). Every traffic stop we get the same BS lies and excuses that we can't tell the truth from the lies because everybody has used every line in the book. If I pulled someone over with a phone in there hand and they said they were checking the time how do I really know thats true and not just a quick on the spot response.

Last week I was doing a ride along and we pulled over someone for having a broken taillight they claimed it just happened 30 mins ago at walmart. How are we supposed to believe them? It could have been broken for months and they just made the excuse you never know. The checking the time story is exactally like the taillight theres no way to prove it when the cop is pulling you over. You can get our phone records to show in court you weren't texting but when your on the side of the road you can't prove anything and will likely get the ticket.


My personal fav is the kid in a Mustang we pulled over 2 weeks ago for doing 76mph in a 45mph zone. His excuse was its his dad car (it was) and it was his first time driving it and he wasn't used to the soft gas pedal. The pedal doesn't change the fact you have a working speedometer on the dash LOL

[SLNoble13]

After reading all of the posts so far, I can see both sides of the story here. I am a certified law enforcement officer for the state of North Carolina. I spent almost 6 years as a Probation Parole Officer, not the same as a police officer. However, I still had and currently have powers of arrest, power to serve warrants, just like police officers do. I am also a certified state firearms instructor for the state. Currently I am a manager of a probation unit but I still work with local law enforcement.

An issue I think I understand that is bothering some of the posters on here is the fact that the officer "grabbed" his weapon. I did not see anywhere in the posts that the officer pulled his weapon out. When I worked in the field and as a firearms instructor, we train our officers that it is perfectly ok, legal and acceptable to place your hand on your sidearm. It is probably safe to say that is how this police officer involved in this situation was trained. I am sorry if the OP felt uneasy, threatened or whatever by this action. But by placing his hand on his weapon has been deemed through the court as non-threatening.

Police officers and probation officers and many other law enforcement officers do not know what a certain person is thinking under a stressful situation. When I worked in the field, I always had my hand on my weapon going up to a house making a contact with someone, whether they were on probation or not. Ok, I am sure some on here will say that is a completely different thing then what police officer do. True, but this issue comes down to training.

I am sure that this officer was trained to do this. I'm sorry you got caught with a cell phone in your hand and he ticketed you for it. Take it to court and fight it if you disagree with it. That is how our legal system has been set up. I'm also sorry you got a seal belt ticket (which was later dropped). Learn from these experiences and move on.

[MattDMC]

After reading all of the posts so far, I can see both sides of the story here. I am a certified law enforcement officer for the state of North Carolina. I spent almost 6 years as a Probation Parole Officer, not the same as a police officer. However, I still had and currently have powers of arrest, power to serve warrants, just like police officers do. I am also a certified state firearms instructor for the state.

An issue I think I understand that is bothering some of the posters on here is the fact that the officer "grabbed" his weapon. I did not see anywhere in the posts that the officer pulled his weapon out. When I worked in the field and as a firearms instructor, we train our officers that it is perfectly ok, legal and acceptable to place your hand on your sidearm. It is probably safe to say that is how this police officer involved in this situation was trained. I am sorry if the OP felt uneasy, threatened or whatever by this action.

Police officers and probation officers and many other law enforcement officers do not know what a certain person is thinking under a stressful situation. When I worked in the field, I always had my hand on my weapon going up to a house making a contact with someone, whether they were on probation or not. Ok, I am sure some on here will say that is a completely different thing then what police officer do. True, but this issue comes down to training.

I am sure that this officer was trained to do this. I'm sorry you got caught with a cell phone in your hand and he ticketed you for it. Take it to court and fight it if you disagree with it. That is how our legal system has been set up. I'm also sorry you got a seal belt ticket (which was later dropped). Learn from these experiences and move on.

Thank you for posting this.

I'm a rookie officer who in training was always taught to keep your weapon close and be prepared for anything and I've been trying to stress the hand on weapon for almost 3 pages now in this thread.

[SLNoble13]

Thank you for posting this.

I'm a rookie officer who in training was always taught to keep your weapon close and be prepared for anything and I've been trying to stress the hand on weapon for almost 3 pages now in this thread.

No problem. Thank you for what you do

[Star_Cards]

I love the first part of your response LOL.

Trust me you can tell the cops any excuse you want true or not the cop isn't going to believe you (not saying the checking the time was a lie or not). Every traffic stop we get the same BS lies and excuses that we can't tell the truth from the lies because everybody has used every line in the book. If I pulled someone over with a phone in there hand and they said they were checking the time how do I really know thats true and not just a quick on the spot response.

Last week I was doing a ride along and we pulled over someone for having a broken taillight they claimed it just happened 30 mins ago at walmart. How are we supposed to believe them? It could have been broken for months and they just made the excuse you never know. The checking the time story is exactally like the taillight theres no way to prove it when the cop is pulling you over. You can get our phone records to show in court you weren't texting but when your on the side of the road you can't prove anything and will likely get the ticket.


My personal fav is the kid in a Mustang we pulled over 2 weeks ago for doing 76mph in a 45mph zone. His excuse was its his dad car (it was) and it was his first time driving it and he wasn't used to the soft gas pedal. The pedal doesn't change the fact you have a working speedometer on the dash LOL

The stupid lies are my favorite when I watch shows like cops and alaska state trooper. Most of them that make those show are so ridiculous.

[Star_Cards]

After reading all of the posts so far, I can see both sides of the story here. I am a certified law enforcement officer for the state of North Carolina. I spent almost 6 years as a Probation Parole Officer, not the same as a police officer. However, I still had and currently have powers of arrest, power to serve warrants, just like police officers do. I am also a certified state firearms instructor for the state. Currently I am a manager of a probation unit but I still work with local law enforcement.

An issue I think I understand that is bothering some of the posters on here is the fact that the officer "grabbed" his weapon. I did not see anywhere in the posts that the officer pulled his weapon out. When I worked in the field and as a firearms instructor, we train our officers that it is perfectly ok, legal and acceptable to place your hand on your sidearm. It is probably safe to say that is how this police officer involved in this situation was trained. I am sorry if the OP felt uneasy, threatened or whatever by this action. But by placing his hand on his weapon has been deemed through the court as non-threatening.

Police officers and probation officers and many other law enforcement officers do not know what a certain person is thinking under a stressful situation. When I worked in the field, I always had my hand on my weapon going up to a house making a contact with someone, whether they were on probation or not. Ok, I am sure some on here will say that is a completely different thing then what police officer do. True, but this issue comes down to training.

I am sure that this officer was trained to do this. I'm sorry you got caught with a cell phone in your hand and he ticketed you for it. Take it to court and fight it if you disagree with it. That is how our legal system has been set up. I'm also sorry you got a seal belt ticket (which was later dropped). Learn from these experiences and move on.

great post and glad to hear a perspective of another person in the business. I watched a show called Rookies last year where they show you trainee officers out in the field with training officers. One thing that keeps coming to mind is that how different their mentality has to be. The rookies typically had a hard time adjusting to the fact that every stop had to be approached with the caution that this person could do you harm. Almost every move they make is to put them in the best defensive position should a scene turn bad. One trainee was critiqued simply by how he stood when asking a guy questions. He was standing with the side of his body with his firearm facing the person he stopped and was supposed to have it away from him. Now, I don't claim to know much about it by just watching a TV show, but it did give me a different perspective on simple stops that officers make and how they approach them.

[palmdesertcards]

Okay maybe 1% was a little low lets say 5-10%

Op just struck a nerve with me when he called the cop that pulled him over a coward.

Its a shame that the 5-10% have ruined it for the rest of the cops. The public sees one cop act as a coward suddenly we're all cowards who do nothing but hide behind their badge and gun. You actually hear it quite a bit when OP said it it wasn't the first time I've seen innocent cops classified as something they're not.

Heck I've only been working with my PD for 3 months as an intern recruit and at least 3-4 days a week you get someone who shows no respect and starts busting out the names and insults. Why can't anyone ever just accept they got caught doing something wrong and man up? Why does everyone have to be a dick and and actually believe they were right and the cop was just ticketing them because they have a badge and can?

You bet, I did call him a coward. You werent there at the stop now were you? I did not do anything wrong, per california vehicle code I did not break the law and therfor I was stopped for nothing. The loser took out some aggression from the last time we saw each other.

Before you start bashing me get your facts right. I struck a nerve? Must have hit home to you. I dont care what you or anyone else thinks, I did not break the law, have proof and will win it in court. When you pull me over to rob me of $200, you should feel blessed you are a cop. If anyone without a badge tried to steal $200 out of my pocket, they would be dialing 911 real fast.

As far as this cop goes, I hope HE is in a situation where he needs assistance. I wouldnt give him a damn thing.

Again, get your facts right before you get on your high horse and slam me