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04-11-2012, 03:46 AM #31
I smell something fishy going on ......
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04-11-2012, 03:47 AM #32
Agree.
As much as I love Cory, I would trade him for the pick! Russian Rocket part 2!
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04-11-2012, 12:29 PM #33
I don't know why people would think it is rigged. If it was rigged the NHL would almost certainly have put the pick into either Toronto or Montreal's hands for the increased coverage it might gather or put it into Columbus' hands as a way to boost that team considering the current mess with Rick Nash wanting out as well as the performance of the team considering what they were on paper at the start of the year.
I don't recall a lot of people claiming it was rigged when Chicago moved up from 5th to 1st when they drafted Patrick Kane?
In 2001 Atlanta took Ilya Kovalchuk while the Islanders were the worst team in the league
In 2002 and 2003 Florida won the draft lottery and bumped Atlanta and Carolina from the first over all pick and then traded the pick away both times.
Washington won the lottery and took OVechkin while the Pens were the worst team.
NJ moved up from 8th to 4th last year, and the Oilers were the worst team that year and NJ only had a miniscule chance of moving up.
It is a lottery, and the Oilers with their 18.2% chance meant they had almost 1 in 5 odds of getting the pick, I don't know about you but them odds are pretty good all things considered.
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04-11-2012, 03:25 PM #34
I also don't know why everyone thinks it is rigged? Why would the NHL rig it in favour of the Oilers? Come on! The Oilers had a 1 out of 5 shot or almost a 20% shot a winning it. Those aren't bad odds. I can only imagine the rigged comments if the Leafs with their 8% chance at winning had won!
The Oilers definitely should trade down with the Leafs. The Leafs can give up someting else to make the deal happen. Basically from the comments of Kevin Lowe I think the Oilers will seriously consider trading down 1 to 3 spots and getting another asset (pick, prospect, or player) in return. That would be the smart thing to do for where they are at as an organization.
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04-11-2012, 03:48 PM #35
Not worth trading Schneider. It'd be a really big mistake.
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04-11-2012, 03:57 PM #36
Especially since he would be staying in the Division. Screw the prospects, top 6 now forward for me please ..... theyve got to be able to find someone better than Mason Raymond in that roll with Cory Schneider as bait.
You go to the draft, annouce to the GMs that Schneider is on the table ... and what you want. Then sit back and watch the offers come in ....
IMO, we should have done that with Cory and Cody during this upcoming draft.
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04-11-2012, 04:10 PM #37
There is a difference... trading Schneider to Edmonton, not worth it because of the division rival.
However, who knows what the divisions are going to look like in a couple years.
But with regards to the first pick (who owns it aside).
Who wouldn't trade Schneider for a 1st overall pick and it so happens to be a guy, who if plays in Vancouver, has the potential to become the next Bure. Instant fan favourite, and would probably excel more in this city than any other.
You would be crazy not to.
We all understand the Luongo situation. Schneider is a great goalie, but anytime you can get a superstar or an instant fan favourite, you don't say no.
It's not like the Canucks will be screwed without Schneider. We would still have Luongo who is a top goalie in the league and we have Eddie Lack.
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04-11-2012, 04:27 PM #38
And how do you Oiler fans expect the team to be able to pay Eberle, Hall, Nuge and Yakupov in 3 years? That's not even counting any money that it would take to get a Defense and a goalie. They need to trade the pick, pick Murray for the blue line or trade one of Hall, Nuge, or Eberle to Columbus and take Nail and Murray. There is no logical way this works out with the picking a fourth sniper for their team.
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04-12-2012, 02:20 PM #39Hockey Advisor
I would expect they'll be paying is American Dollars.
Seriously though - look around the NHL. There are several teams with 4 big stars on them. How do any of them do it?
Detroit has three contracts that pay over 6m each, and another 5 that pay over 3m
Pittsbrgh has 2 at nearly 9m, 2 at 5m, 2 at 4m, and another 3 over 3m
Washinton pays 1 guy over 9,m 2 almost 7m, and 1 more over 5m
Vancouver has 2 at 6.1m, 2 at 5m or more, and 3 that make over 4m.
Not all 4 of these guys are suddenly going to be making 7 million a season all at the same time.
At the rate they are going - sometime during next season.... Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle will need to get extended, and will likely get something in the 4-5.5 million range each. It will probably be a 3 year deal.
RNH Will do the same the following season, and Yakupov the season after that (assuming they do pick him).
None of these guys will be able to justfy a 7 or 8 million (even a 6 million) salary until at least their 3rd contract. The only players who have gotten that kind of cash are the ones that are considered the best in the league.
If Hall / Eberle / RNH are 1-2-3 in league scoring next year.... with Nail finishing in the top 10 while winning the Calder, then yes..... maybe they need to be worried..... but until something crazy like that happens, there is plenty of room under the cap for all four of them, for at least 5-7 years...... if they're smart about how they spend their money.
Then the other thing you forget might happen: New CBA, and a restriction on $$$ value of second contracts. There's lots of talk that it may happen..... and the Oilers would benefit big time from it. I don't think they need it to be able to manage, but it would help big time.
The Oilers need to keep the pick, draft Nail, add some grit, improve the D through trades / free agency..... and they'll be fine.
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04-12-2012, 02:21 PM #40Hockey Advisor
If you have the oppertunity to trade a #1 overall pick for a highly regarded backup goalie (that has never actually accomplished anything) you run away from the trade as fast as you can, and use the pick yourself.
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Originally Posted by HOCKEY68 
