Free will or not?

[tpeichel]

i am a christain,but here latley im beginning to beleive that everything is planned out, it does say god knows all right?..........so that means he already knows whats going to happen to any given person...its already planned out. thats why some times life will be going horribly and some times its perfect,god likes to play with people.

If God knows all, how come he didn't know exactly what was going in Sodom and how many righteous people were in the city?

20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”
22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[d] 23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[e] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing —to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake. ”
27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes, 28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”
“If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”
29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”
He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”
30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”
He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”
He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”
32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.

[andrewhoya]

If God knows all, how come he didn't know exactly what was going in Sodom and how many righteous people were in the city?

20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”
22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[d] 23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[e] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing —to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake. ”
27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes, 28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”
“If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”
29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”
He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”
30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”
He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”
He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”
32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.

I believe that he did indeed know.

[stlcardinalsfan]

I believe that he did indeed know.

exactly he knew so he destroyed it and turned lots wife into a pillar of salt

[hawk2618]

I also believe he knew.Many people always tried to twist words and trick Jesus,But he never fell for one trick,not one single one.

[TheTGB]

It's funny that I don't consider myself Buddhist, however, most of my personal beliefs which I thought were of my own self-creation are actually Buddhist in nature.

I voted for both. (As was stated, tends to be a Buddhist belief)

I believe that a path is laid out for you, however, you have the free will to deviate from that path by your own decisions.

Which now that I think about it, sounds kinda Buddhist...

[habsheaven]

If God has a plan for everyone then one of two things must also be true:

1) God is sadistic in nature and plans some very bad things for a lot of good people,

or

2) There is another entity (devil) in the Cosmos and he is just as powerful as God.

Take your pick.

[stlcardinalsfan]

If God has a plan for everyone then one of two things must also be true:

1) God is sadistic in nature and plans some very bad things for a lot of good people,

or

2) There is another entity (devil) in the Cosmos and he is just as powerful as God.

Take your pick.

1) read the story about job,god allows the devil to rip apart job's life. takes everythign he owns,his family, makes him sick and full of diseases just so that he will wont turn his back on god.

god is very jealous imo

2) he is as strong

[habsheaven]

1) read the story about job,god allows the devil to rip apart job's life. takes everythign he owns,his family, makes him sick and full of diseases just so that he will wont turn his back on god.

god is very jealous imo

2) he is as strong

Thanks for the suggestion but I do not have to read stories from the Bible to base my opinions on. Everyday news stories paint a clear enough picture. It appears that you believe BOTH of my statements to be true. If so, it's no wonder the world is how it is, if this is who we have to look up to.