The Better D-Man

[Blmdear]

Right. You had stated why most points wouldn't matter, obviously talking about Karlsson. I was just giving the one reason why he isn't. Had nothing to do with scoring not mattering.

You were quoting me asking why 1 of the 5 reasons could not be offense.....

[Blmdear]

Awesome!! I will end it on this. I have been trying to trade for Karlsson all year in my fantasy league but cant seem to land him!!!!!

There, I can agree with that. Maybe not a disgrace, but he doesn't deserve to win it this year. I don't think many people have been seeing him as a candidate this year anyways.

[hallfan4]

id rather have Ekman-Larrson they any of them.....

[WeberCollector6]

id rather have Ekman-Larrson they any of them.....

why. he has been ok this year but hasnt been as good as he was when the coyotes made it to the Conference Finals. Not even close

[chakhae1]

Not even close and Shea Weber in a landslide. Karlsson reminds me a lot of pk subban who is great when he's on his game, but makes too many bonehead mistakes all over the ice since he focuses on his offensive game too much. The primary responsibility of a blue liner should be to defend their zone and few players do that better than Weber and he's obviously no slouch offensively as well.

I think it's for the league to focus on the defensive side of the game when picking the Norris winner as the last two winners haven't necessarily been the two best defencemen in the league and just the most gifted offensively. My ideal defenceman is someone like Lidstron that rarely makes mistakes and does the job in both zones.

[DocPyjama]

I'll take Weber over Karlsson. Weber plays for one of the worst offensive team in the league, nobody can score regulary in Nashville and he's always playing against the opposing top players. In Ottawa, there's Spezza, Turris and Bobby Ryan who can score. But they are two very different D-Man. Karlsson reminds me of Phil Housley and Weber looks like a young Chris Chelios. Here's my top Five: 1-Weber, 2-Keith, 3-Pietrangelo, 4-Karlsson, 5-Suter.

[hallfan4]

Maybe for this year id take Weber but id much rather build a team around OEL next season and onwards... he has so much upside to his game... he is not doing that bad this year he is on pace for 41 points and he is a plus 3. He is also only 23 years of age. Weber is a -14 ( i know he is on Nash) comparing that to oel who is plus 3. Nashville is only 4 points behind Phoenix so their isn't much a difference between them. Weber is on pace for 53 points which is only around 12 points more the Oel and also considering Weber has been developed for years now.

[hallfan4]

Weber is well rounded, only thing missing is speed ;)

[mooneyes]

If your a GM, and your goal is to win the only trophy that matters, your first choice is the most dominating DEFENDER in the NHL today. Zedeno Chara. The greatest player in the world is supposed to be Crosby, with Malkin in the top 3-4, total pts for both in a 4 game shut-out in the PLAY-OFFS,....ZERO. So, who really is the Most Valuable Player? And yeah Chara plays on a excellent team, but a HUGE reason the team is great is Z, his signing was a game changer for the Bruin's. The dude is The fittest player on the team, logs 40 minutes in the play-offs, has a bomb from the point, is a great playmaker, can play forward on the power play, and his physical presence is Dominate against Any player....6' 7" Brian Boyle wants to mess with Z' teammates, Z taps him on the shoulder, than turns him around and rag dolls him like a @#$%@. The intangibles he brings to the Bruin's are off the charts, and he accumulates decent points, but his main job is to totally Shut-Down the best offensive players in the world and win play-off rounds. He does is better than anyone, simply, one of the best Shut-down D-men of all time a future HOF'r.
I doubt I could change one of Weber's biggest fans as he thinks Weber is the best, but if you polled all the GM's which D-man they could add to make a run at the CUP this year, I would bet it would be a unanimous pick, Chara is a freak of nature.

As for the Norris, who cares, that is just a popularity contest for flashy guys like Subban and Karlsson, but the immature mistakes they make in the play-offs, or regular season, are Game, and Series killers. And physically, they scare No one....as for Weber, put him on the Bruin's, and he would be All-world, but he would still have to defer to Chara, the leader and best player on the team. jmho.

[cygnusx1]

If your a GM, and your goal is to win the only trophy that matters, your first choice is the most dominating DEFENDER in the NHL today. Zedeno Chara. The greatest player in the world is supposed to be Crosby, with Malkin in the top 3-4, total pts for both in a 4 game shut-out in the PLAY-OFFS,....ZERO. So, who really is the Most Valuable Player? And yeah Chara plays on a excellent team, but a HUGE reason the team is great is Z, his signing was a game changer for the Bruin's. The dude is The fittest player on the team, logs 40 minutes in the play-offs, has a bomb from the point, is a great playmaker, can play forward on the power play, and his physical presence is Dominate against Any player....6' 5" Dan Boyle wants to mess with Z' teammates, Z taps him on the shoulder, than turns him around and rag dolls him like a @#$%@. The intangibles he brings to the Bruin's are off the charts, and he accumulates decent points, but his main job is to totally Shut-Down the best offensive players in the world and win play-off rounds. He does is better than anyone, simply, one of the best Shut-down D-men of all time a future HOF'r.
I doubt I could change one of Weber's biggest fans as he thinks Weber is the best, but if you polled all the GM's which D-man they could add to make a run at the CUP this year, I would bet it would be a unanimous pick, Chara is a freak of nature.

As for the Norris, who cares, that is just a popularity contest for flashy guys like Subban and Karlsson, but the immature mistakes they make in the play-offs, or regular season, are Game, and Series killers. And physically, they scare No one....as for Weber, put him on the Bruin's, and he would be All-world, but he would still have to defer to Chara, the leader and best player on the team. jmho.

Uggggggghhhhhhhh..... I realize the Sens made the finals in 06-07, but imagine if they had chosen Chara over Redden after 05-06? Ottawa actually could have won that Finals series IMO.

Also I'm assuming you meant the 6' 7" Brian Boyle in your post. Dan Boyle is tiny lol.