2013-14 SP Athentic Discussion Thread (Merge)

[FuriousD82]

Of course they should - they should be a visible hand and artificially inflate prices to make flippers happy. Busted a case and disappointed that your Gallagher Future Watches only hit $40? Upper Deck is here to shill that bad boy up to $80!

Does this really happen? I think another country did this with their Soccer autos....they even posted an article about how good it turned out :)

[RGM81]

Does this really happen? I think another country did this with their Soccer autos....they even posted an article about how good it turned out :)

I should like to think that Upper Deck employees have better things to do that troll the eBay waters to inflate singles values for their releases.

[KingKuba]

With the amount of product that they produce of it. Its not going to ever dry up. There is just to much of it.

I was being sarcastic. ..

Very few products dry up these days even with low print runs.
Even in basketball which has a bigger demand and all /99 rpa's.

[KingKuba]

The difference between /999 and /299 FWA's would be approximately $6 million vs $1.5 million in revenue.

[MW Connection]

i have a case arriving tomorrow and need to decide whether to break it or just sell it. I was excited to open it but it looks like there is no value in the case to be had. Should I just sale it on the bay or break it?

[japhi]

Crack it and see what you get.

[KingKuba]

i have a case arriving tomorrow and need to decide whether to break it or just sell it. I was excited to open it but it looks like there is no value in the case to be had. Should I just sale it on the bay or break it?

It's UD. of course it has value and everyone wants it...

[MW Connection]

It's UD. of course it has value and everyone wants it...

I sense sarcasm. Many people are complaining about the resale value of the future watch autos. I am not shocked as the print run is 999. In this day of age that is too many.

[KingKuba]

On card auto. Sick patch. Low number.
Always sells no matter what company.

People just don't like buying

[30ranfordfan]

I don't understand how or why the resale value of FW Autos is even a conversation topic.

This isn't a new set. This set (SP Authentic) has been around since the 90s, and the current format (FW Auto's #'d /999) has been around since the early 2000s. The value of those cards, IMO, is as good as it's ever been.

Except, nobody should be kidding themselves as to what that value is:

The true star players, they will be $200 - $250 cards when the dust settles (see Stamkos). Crosby is a notch above everyone, so his pricing shouldn't even come into player here. The decent, but not hobby darlings... they'll settle into that $50-$100 range. There's another group that will likely end up in the middle ($150ish).

But with 999 copies, most of these cards will be found in $2 bins in two years time. That's how the set has always worked out. Why is anyone surprised that it's the case now?


As far as 999 being too many... the idea behind this set, is that it's limited enough to make them scarce (demand should be higher than supply) but not so limited that people can't build a set without taking on a second mortgage. If you want really limited RCs, this isn't the set to be buying. Ultimate will have about half the production run, and The Cup will certainly be the cream of the crop in that respect.

The problem with SPA isn't the FWAs, it's the price point & everything else. For $120+ - There shouldn't be a box that doesn't contain at least a single card worth $25, and that isn't the case here... because (like most of their products) UD stuff it with a bunch of filler content.

I sense sarcasm. Many people are complaining about the resale value of the future watch autos. I am not shocked as the print run is 999. In this day of age that is too many.