LA Kings Fans - Let's play GM

[PensFan_87]

I really like Giroux and I'm a Pens fan. But anyway I think when Price gets out of MTL, he will become a true #1 goalie in this league. He has huge upside.

[Qwikflipz]

i don't know enough about Giroux to know if i would trade Quick for him. the numbers work.

it will be interesting to see if MTL is willing to move one of their guys. i would think yes but they might not want to give up on Price so early.

same thing for the Kings. i'm not sure DL would be willing to move Quick with Bernier only having played 7 NHL games.

that's why i love these threads - speculation is fun, especially when your team's season is over.

A second year player scoring a point in every other game. Pretty good.

And MTL doesn't need two number one goalies. They need to move one of them, personally I think Price will be moved. And LA has 3 NHL goalies. Quick, Ersberg, Bernier. I think Ersberg can be back-up. LA will probably move one of them. Or Quick stays the starter, and we are wasting our breathe

[4ant4]

i'm not sure if your reading comprehension is low or if you just like to stir the pot but i don't think anyone said he sucks and i said that his fundamentals aren't great and that Bernier's are better.

if you have something to contribute please do so - we're trying to have a mature conversation.

You must be off your rocker, you and your buddy cns who has said Quick sucks about 20 times the last few days. Now you are talking about trading Quick for TJ Oshie? LA LA Land, seriously. Your Stoll and Quick for Carter and Giroux is even more laughable. You claim you are trying to have a mature conversation, but you are throwing out some of the most ridiculous opinions of what you think the Kings can get in return, you aren't even inthe same universe on trade value. Hell, with your logic, the Hawks should be able to trade Niemi and Versteeg for Crosby and Malkin.

[gretzky99]

You must be off your rocker, you and your buddy cns who has said Quick sucks about 20 times the last few days. Now you are talking about trading Quick for TJ Oshie? LA LA Land, seriously. Your Stoll and Quick for Carter and Giroux is even more laughable. You claim you are trying to have a mature conversation, but you are throwing out some of the most ridiculous opinions of what you think the Kings can get in return, you aren't even inthe same universe on trade value. Hell, with your logic, the Hawks should be able to trade Niemi and Versteeg for Crosby and Malkin.

please show me where i said Quick sucks.

i said he didn't play well in the series and was the reason they lost the series. i said his fundamentals aren't as good as Bernier's. but please show me where i said he sucks - but you won't because you can't.

if you are going to come into my thread and throw jabs at me then please get your facts straight. show me quotes. otherwise, find yourself someone else to pester.

[cnshockey]

Yeah it was me who said he sucks.

Of course, really I know he doesn't suck. Go check around. I make comparisons between Quick and MAF and their styles of play. MAF won a cup and i pointed that out. The reason I say he sucks is because he lost us this series and I'm just saying it out of anger because I feel with Bernier in the net we would have won the series

[gretzky99]

and to prove my point, here is the thread you are referring to. again, please point out where i said he sucks...anywhere. the worst thing i said about him is that his technique isn't good.

https://www.sportscardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1097515
https://www.sportscardforum.com/showt...1098523&page=4


bring facts or go away.

[gretzky99]

A second year player scoring a point in every other game. Pretty good.

And MTL doesn't need two number one goalies. They need to move one of them, personally I think Price will be moved. And LA has 3 NHL goalies. Quick, Ersberg, Bernier. I think Ersberg can be back-up. LA will probably move one of them. Or Quick stays the starter, and we are wasting our breathe

i don't think 40 points for a second year player is that much to go crazy over. like i said, i haven't seen him much, but the stats aren't staggering. from what i've heard he has some talent and he's cheap right now so i don't imagine Phily moving him unless it's for a goalie.

the question is if the MTL brass is convinced that one of them is a true #1. if they don't have to trade one because of contracts/cap situations then they may wait. same with the Kings.

i think Ersberg could be a backup somewhere but i'd prefer it not be in LA. i'd rather have a veteran backup if we are going to go with a young #1.

i actually don't think DL will trade Quick. i think now is the time to do it to get the most in return for him, but i don't think he'll risk having Bernier be the #1 to start next year.

[gretzky99]

I think you are crazy for giving up on Quick after one season, but hey, more power to you. If you really think Bernier is the answer, send Quick and Simmonds to the Blackhawks for Huet and Sharp. You get a veteran backup for your untested goalie that everyone is so high on, and you get more scoring and veteran leadership up front with Sharp. What say you.

this is funny - you say my offers are crazy after you make this offer. two overpaid vets for two 2nd year players that are making 1/3 of what the two guys you're offering make. huet is washed up and although i like sharp, he's way overpaid.

i don't know how much you know about hockey but my trade was 10X more likely than this one.

first off, Chicago is in cap hell and there is no team that will help them by taking their bad contracts.

second, huet makes $5.6M to be a backup for two more years. no team will trade for that. none. zero.

sharp makes almost $4M for two more years. he's not a bad player but he's simmonds with less upside and 4X the price.

i don't know of anyone who would take huet over quick at even salary let alone 3X. sharp has a little more offense to him right now but not sure anyone would take him over simmonds straight up right now, let alone at 4X the salary.

the trade i threw out was much more doable...

the flyers need a goalie and are in cap hell as well. they have over $12M tied up in their top 2 centers for another 5 years and over $11M in their top 2 d-men over the next three. that's over 1/3 of their cap on four players.

they can't afford to keep carter past this year. they aren't trading richards and they can't unload briere so carter is out. gagne might be as well as they are both up after next year.

they can either trade them now and get something or let them walk. that is called a position of weakness. the kings don't have to trade Quick. he and Bernier can share starts next year and the following year before they have to make a decision as both are signed.

it's pure speculation on my part if they would want Stoll but if they lose carter they would need a third line center. but having carter and quick as the centerpiece of a deal is not far-fetched in the least. it probably doesn't make a ton of sense for Phily to trade Giroux at this point as he's cheap and would help make up for the scoring lost with Carter. more likely it would be someone like coburn who is someone the kings could use on the back end.

trading quick/simmonds for huet/sharp makes absolutely no sense. huet is useless and overpaid. $5.6M for 20-25 games a year doesn't make a ton of sense, no? sharp isn't a bad player but he makes way too much money for what he provides. the Kings are in a good cap situation - they would never trade away cheap, young talent to the 'Hawks let alone bail them out of cap hell.

before you go off on other folks check yourself. use some facts - they are wonderful things.

[FlyerGuy22]

From a Flyers perspective...
No way the Flyers trade Giroux (he is one of the best deals for our cap right now) and no way they move laperiere after the season he's had here.
You may be high on Quick, but you have to remember that everyone knows you have 3 goalies and will be looking to move one, so you wont get as good an offer as you think.
Same thing goes for Price in MTL, they can't afford to sign them both up there, so they will give him up for a lot less than MTL fans think he's worth.

If Carter gets dealt, it wont be until the deadline next year, because you dont trade your best goal scorer for a guy with fewer playoff wins than Brian Boucher because he had 39 wins in 1 regular season.

Just my 2 cents...

[Qwikflipz]

i don't think 40 points for a second year player is that much to go crazy over. like i said, i haven't seen him much, but the stats aren't staggering. from what i've heard he has some talent and he's cheap right now so i don't imagine Phily moving him unless it's for a goalie.

the question is if the MTL brass is convinced that one of them is a true #1. if they don't have to trade one because of contracts/cap situations then they may wait. same with the Kings.

i think Ersberg could be a backup somewhere but i'd prefer it not be in LA. i'd rather have a veteran backup if we are going to go with a young #1.

i actually don't think DL will trade Quick. i think now is the time to do it to get the most in return for him, but i don't think he'll risk having Bernier be the #1 to start next year.

You wanted Stoll/Quick for Carter/Giroux. Giroux had the same production as Stoll, and is 5 years younger. He is only getting better. Stamkos stats didn't shock me the first year. Look what he did last year. Giroux is on the up swing. It will take a lot to trade away your best young guy, like a Giroux. That being said, I don't think Quick gets moved. One playoff series shouldn't affect that decision. He got you there, and yea, he was shaky, but it was his first playoff series. He does remind me of Fleury, and for Kings fans, I'd be happy with that because Fleury has that ring.