LA Kings Fans - Let's play GM

[gretzky99]

ok, my suggestion of Giroux was clearly a bad idea. the Flyers are obviously high on him.

as far as Carter, you are right, they may wait until the trade deadline. but the problem is are the Flyers willing to go into next season with Boucher as their goalie? i guess he got them to the 2nd round so maybe they are. but i know i wouldn't feel comfortable with Boucher as my #1.

and as far as the Kings having to trade a goalie, the goalie they are trading is Ersberg. the plan is for Bernier and Quick to share starts. clearly Quick couldn't handle 70+ games this early in his career. but a 50/30 split is probably what you are looking at next year.

the only reason the Kings would trade Quick is to capitalize on his good season. now if you say that the Kings won't get much for Ersberg, i totally agree. he's the guy that is getting moved for sure.

[FlyerGuy22]

but the problem is are the Flyers willing to go into next season with Boucher as their goalie? i guess he got them to the 2nd round so maybe they are. but i know i wouldn't feel comfortable with Boucher as my #1.

We'll resign Leighton as the #1 if we cant find a deal without giving up Carter/Giroux.

[gretzky99]

is that any better? i don't think you'd "have" to give up Giroux - frankly i looked at their roster and went with him because he's a winger. could be a couple other guys - somene like Coburn would fit a need the Kings have.

they have other options - they could re-sign emery or go after a bigger name.

the question is how do they turn Carter and possibly Gagne into the best assets they can. they can probably only keep one, so do they let Gagne walk? Carter has more value because he's a RFA and younger.

that Briere contract is going to kill them - Timonen too. that's $13M tied up for a long time and i don't think either can be moved at that number.

[FlyerGuy22]

I could see them maybe moving Coburn, but not until they see how Parent (back problems) and Bartulis/Syvret come along by training camp. I dont know that they will want to pay emery after his injury if he is even able to play next year.
I would personally love to see Gagne finish his career in Philly but would not be surprised to see him go at this point (he has a no-trade clause though). I agree that Briere's deal has been brutal on our cap and was never worth that price even at his best and would love to see that contract gone, but with a no-trade clause and that high a price, I dont know that anyone would take that off our hands. (I think Timonen has been worth it though).

I forsee a deal with either LA/MTL IF we make for a goalie this summer, but I think one of the city's fans involved will NOT be happy with the outcome (one side giving up too much for what they get in return).

[4ant4]

please show me where i said Quick sucks.

i said he didn't play well in the series and was the reason they lost the series. i said his fundamentals aren't as good as Bernier's. but please show me where i said he sucks - but you won't because you can't.

if you are going to come into my thread and throw jabs at me then please get your facts straight. show me quotes. otherwise, find yourself someone else to pester.

I clearly said "your buddy CNS" said he sucks, you claim his fundamentals are not good. Why don't you read and comprehend, beore throwing jabs at me. It's a public forum and a public thread, you don't own it and anyone has the right to post their opinion in it.

[4ant4]

this is funny - you say my offers are crazy after you make this offer. two overpaid vets for two 2nd year players that are making 1/3 of what the two guys you're offering make. huet is washed up and although i like sharp, he's way overpaid.

i don't know how much you know about hockey but my trade was 10X more likely than this one.

first off, Chicago is in cap hell and there is no team that will help them by taking their bad contracts.

second, huet makes $5.6M to be a backup for two more years. no team will trade for that. none. zero.

sharp makes almost $4M for two more years. he's not a bad player but he's simmonds with less upside and 4X the price.

i don't know of anyone who would take huet over quick at even salary let alone 3X. sharp has a little more offense to him right now but not sure anyone would take him over simmonds straight up right now, let alone at 4X the salary.

the trade i threw out was much more doable...

the flyers need a goalie and are in cap hell as well. they have over $12M tied up in their top 2 centers for another 5 years and over $11M in their top 2 d-men over the next three. that's over 1/3 of their cap on four players.

they can't afford to keep carter past this year. they aren't trading richards and they can't unload briere so carter is out. gagne might be as well as they are both up after next year.

they can either trade them now and get something or let them walk. that is called a position of weakness. the kings don't have to trade Quick. he and Bernier can share starts next year and the following year before they have to make a decision as both are signed.

it's pure speculation on my part if they would want Stoll but if they lose carter they would need a third line center. but having carter and quick as the centerpiece of a deal is not far-fetched in the least. it probably doesn't make a ton of sense for Phily to trade Giroux at this point as he's cheap and would help make up for the scoring lost with Carter. more likely it would be someone like coburn who is someone the kings could use on the back end.

trading quick/simmonds for huet/sharp makes absolutely no sense. huet is useless and overpaid. $5.6M for 20-25 games a year doesn't make a ton of sense, no? sharp isn't a bad player but he makes way too much money for what he provides. the Kings are in a good cap situation - they would never trade away cheap, young talent to the 'Hawks let alone bail them out of cap hell.

before you go off on other folks check yourself. use some facts - they are wonderful things.

You obviously have zero concept of sarcasm, but hey, it's my fault. I now realize what I should have last night, you are living in your own fantasy world.

[gretzky99]

I could see them maybe moving Coburn, but not until they see how Parent (back problems) and Bartulis/Syvret come along by training camp. I dont know that they will want to pay emery after his injury if he is even able to play next year.
I would personally love to see Gagne finish his career in Philly but would not be surprised to see him go at this point (he has a no-trade clause though). I agree that Briere's deal has been brutal on our cap and was never worth that price even at his best and would love to see that contract gone, but with a no-trade clause and that high a price, I dont know that anyone would take that off our hands. (I think Timonen has been worth it though).

I forsee a deal with either LA/MTL IF we make for a goalie this summer, but I think one of the city's fans involved will NOT be happy with the outcome (one side giving up too much for what they get in return).

TM has come out and said that Quick is the number 1 next year so it may not matter what Quick's trade value is. But I'd love to be a fly on the wall in DL's office listening in on what kind of offers he gets.

[CSSports]

I think Quick and Bernier end up splitting next season and Ersberg is in Manchester - Ersberg makes under 1 mil so it wouldnt be a big deal for him to be in Manchester....

I do feel DL will make a splash at the draft....Kings will have around 20th pick so he wont get the best of the Draft's crop....I say he makes a trade for either a top 10 or for a bona fide scorer....

[gretzky99]

i thought ersberg was out of options?

[CSSports]

He has one year left - and Kings are known for sending netminders to Manchester even with ne way contracts - LaBarbara, Fiset