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    I agree, but the bottom line is that parents need to be the ones that role model the right behaviors and discipline their children when they get out of line Not just those in education.

    Yes but that's a different discussion.

    The point here is that the teacher should be able to effectively and tactfully handle situations in the classroom/in school, regardless of whom these kids see as role models or what they learn outside of school or whatever.

    There probably was an element of the teacher being baited into losing his cool. But that is no concession for lowering the standard or judgment of how teachers should act.

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    Yes but that's a different discussion.

    The point here is that the teacher should be able to effectively and tactfully handle situations in the classroom/in school, regardless of whom these kids see as role models or what they learn outside of school or whatever.

    There probably was an element of the teacher being baited into losing his cool. But that is no concession for lowering the standard or judgment of how teachers should act.

    I agree, but what standard should the student be held to if they were baiting the teacher? The teachers's reaction was inappropriate but that does not excuse the student's behavior that probably preceded the events.

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    I agree, but what standard should the student be held to if they were baiting the teacher? The teachers's reaction was inappropriate but that does not excuse the student's behavior that probably preceded the events.

    The school's standards - no need to delve into moral or social standards.

    The situation being one of cause-and-effect is no justification to equate the process of judgment of the student and teacher. A teacher's behavior, and judgment of that behavior, always takes precedent.

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    How many of you are teachers?

    How many of you have been in the classroom with 25 - 30 high school students?

    How many of you have had parents tell you off because their "baby" is failing because its "your" fault the child has not turned in the assignments, failed all the tests and is not going to pass?

    Unless you have been in a teachers shoes you have no idea what goes on in the classroom or with parents.

    I'm not saying what the teacher did is right but unless you were there from the beginning....
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    The school's standards - no need to delve into moral or social standards.

    The situation being one of cause-and-effect is no justification to equate the process of judgment of the student and teacher. A teacher's behavior, and judgment of that behavior, always takes precedent.

    Those are the one's I'm talking about. What rules did the student break prior to the video? She should receive consequences for her actions if she did not follow the rules or was causing problems for the teachers. The teachers behavior should not give her a "clean slate".

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    How many of you are teachers?

    How many of you have been in the classroom with 25 - 30 high school students?

    How many of you have had parents tell you off because their "baby" is failing because its "your" fault the child has not turned in the assignments, failed all the tests and is not going to pass?

    Unless you have been in a teachers shoes you have no idea what goes on in the classroom or with parents.

    I'm not saying what the teacher did is right but unless you were there from the beginning....

    Great post. I'm only a sub but I know teachers are under a great amount of pressure to make the students achieve and there are too many parents out there who blame teachers for "picking" on their child or holding them responsible for their child not turning in work. An understanding of the best practices helps but students need the support and discipline at home. If not, teachers are fighting a losing battle.

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    I would pay a visit to the teacher after school .And Kick his you know what ...I don't even talk to my child that way and he sure in the crap wouldn't .. She should have punched him in the nose , ..Lol... Totally uncalled for .. probalbly on the verg of Child abuse with the trowing of the chair ...If an average parent does that in front of the wrong people , The police will press charges if there called ..He should loose his job at the least .....

    well here's an internet tough guy.

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    I would pay a visit to the teacher after school .And Kick his you know what ...I don't even talk to my child that way and he sure in the crap wouldn't .. She should have punched him in the nose , ..Lol... Totally uncalled for .. probalbly on the verg of Child abuse with the trowing of the chair ...If an average parent does that in front of the wrong people , The police will press charges if there called ..He should loose his job at the least .....

    Most parents would have gotten involved long before this point. I'm guessing this was an ongoing issue w/ calls home but the parents showed little support for the teacher.

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    man if a teacher ever got in my face like that id get back in his. im surprised she stayed nice about it. i would have told him to go ...... himself

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    man if a teacher ever got in my face like that id get back in his. im surprised she stayed nice about it. i would have told him to go ...... himself

    Would you ever put yourself in that situation though? I don't think the teacher woke up that day thinking he was going to go off on a random student.

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