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09-13-2010, 11:07 AM #61
Ever see the action around Len Pottie's table? I usually buy from him and have to fight to get access to his stuff.
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09-13-2010, 11:22 AM #62
It seems that it's OK so long as the condition is there. Damaged vintage commons are tough to move and get anything for. They seem to move best in lots. Pre-1952, you can move a card with creases. Post-1952, I think people are getting far more picky about grade.
With the Ron Stewart (I probably have a dozen different Ron Stewarts) you're basically looking at a set builder or a team collector. (Note - I don't think Chelios is a good comparable because he's a sure-fire Hall of Famer. I'd call him more like a John Madden.) That's the only way it would sell as a single.
At the same time, though, you check out what Capital Sports is doing on eBay and he can move pretty much anything. He's listing a bunch of VG 1954 Topps right now and if there's one that doesn't sell, I'll be shocked.
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09-13-2010, 11:53 AM #63
I agree.....
Damaged vintage is definitely a plentiful. They're everywhere and you'll pay probabaly next to nothing to add them to the pc. You'll also sell them next to nothing when it's time to let them go as well.
If the vintage card you're looking to buy is a very well sought after set, for example '51 Parkhurst, '54 Topps, '71 o pee chee and other popular sets .......they'll definitely sell.
From my experiences I've stuck to graded mid to high end vintage. I don't dabble in it alot, but when I do pick them up I prefer them to be slabbed. There are A LOT of counterfit and trimmed cards out there so when they're slabbed you're pretty safe. And to add, you rarely lose any money on them. I've picked up quite a few lately and have sold quite a few lately and you at worse get your money back or even a few bucks more. I haven't lost a dime on any that I've picked up and that's a good thing.
I can't say that I haven't lost on a few bucks on cards once the latest products got cold, as I've had to sell or move a few pc items from the new shiny stuff for a loss pretty well everytime.
Even for a collector, that only collects the newer products, decides to pick up few vintage pieces from time to time, they're great additions to the pc.
High end vintage goes extremely well and sells for the most out of the hobby on a consistent basis. They're extremely tough to pry out of collectors hands once they have them in their pc. They never show up anywhere and when they do show up they sell very well.
Mid range vintage sells very well as well. It's A LOT easier to come by and sells relatively decent. Again I prefer the slabbed vintage as I know they're legit and not tampered with.
The low end vintage sells cheap and when you're looking to sell it is still cheap.
If it was me I'd rather save a few extra bucks and get a mid range graded/slabbed card of a vintage card that I'd like and keep it in the pc instead of obtaining alot of lower end cards that have little to no worth. The low end vintage are still great but not my cup of tea....Last edited by deankal; 09-13-2010 at 06:48 PM.
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09-13-2010, 12:10 PM #64
I'm a set builder and prefer NM raw if I can get it. I tend to avoid the slabbed cards except in a couple of instances - cases where I know there are a ton of fakes out there (Orr RC, Gretz) or cases where a PSA 7/KSA 8 is running near book. More often than not, I'll crack those and put them in the set.
I tend to work with a handful of dealers I'm comfortable with. If it's someone I don't know, I don't spend much of anything until I have a sense of how they grade, etc.
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09-14-2010, 02:29 PM #65
The only thing I find really irksome about this board is that there is no dedicated vintage hockey area - just a global vintage section that serves all sports. It sees almost no traffic compared to the sport-specific vintage sections elsewhere.
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09-14-2010, 03:09 PM #66
This is a very interesting thread. I really don't have much to offer other than to say I appreciate vintage hockey and would like to see a dedicated section. Also, a big thanks to those traders who post pics of their vintage. I always enjoy seeing these nice items.
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09-14-2010, 08:10 PM #67
Add 1 more vintage collector to the site..I dabble in all types of vintage( 1911- 1985) and modern cards .. I find that vintage card prices have a relative strong price point.. I'm in agreement with deankal's assessment of modern and vintage cards.. Vintage cards in the mid to high end never go down in the market ..I have constantly seen my modern cards drop in value..Here are a few favorites..As for vintage trimming is a issue that is why you see alot of old vintage being graded..Its not just a love for collecting and the history of the game but when your into mid to high end vintage its a investment.. Can't say the same about modern cards..
Darren
DarrenLast edited by exchefy1; 09-14-2010 at 10:09 PM.
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09-14-2010, 09:29 PM #68
Darren shows real vintage stuff.
On my side I can't stand trimmed vintage cards. Anybody can trim 0.5mm on each edges to make a high-graded card, or to trim cards from uncut sheets to make big money on the back of collectors knowing nothing about cards recently cut from uncut sheets (thinking they buy the real thing, thinking they buy a card pulled from a pack). We see tons of trimmed vintage cards graded by Beckett (BGS) and PSA.
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09-15-2010, 02:52 PM #69
This board is full of children, that is the reason. They want the flavour of the week, and the newest Gizmos.
When I run into an older member on here, it always results in a trade.
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09-15-2010, 03:47 PM #70
can't blame the kids for not collecting people they know nothing about. its one thing just to know who the greats of the game are; its entirely another to be at the game watching your favorite players play in front of you.
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Originally Posted by roy.the.greatest 
