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    what's up kornbreadchild... hope things are going well. i totally agree with you... i'm in it for the collecting aspect, since it gives me joy and hopefully one day i'll pass it down to my nephews (or maybe my own child, if i ever have one).

    however, the fact is... a lot of people make a living on this hobby. so when investors meet collectors... there's sometimes going to be confrontations. this hobby is kind of my "happy place". it's something that brings me entertainment and happiness. and i've decided that i'm not going to let others bring me down. i respect that others have different points of views and hopefully they respect my views. if not, it's okay... i just don't deal with them.

    so... with that being said... when people make outrageous offers... i'm a big fan of the two words... "no thanks". and then moving on. on the flip side... i never make any offers with the intent to offend people... however... i understand that people view things from different angles. so my advice to you... is enjoy the hobby and just learn to say, "no thanks".

    look forward to trading with you again in the future... i hope you enjoyed the jordans... you're a great asset to this community.

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    what's up kornbreadchild... hope things are going well. i totally agree with you... i'm in it for the collecting aspect, since it gives me joy and hopefully one day i'll pass it down to my nephews (or maybe my own child, if i ever have one).

    however, the fact is... a lot of people make a living on this hobby. so when investors meet collectors... there's sometimes going to be confrontations. this hobby is kind of my "happy place". it's something that brings me entertainment and happiness. and i've decided that i'm not going to let others bring me down. i respect that others have different points of views and hopefully they respect my views. if not, it's okay... i just don't deal with them.

    so... with that being said... when people make outrageous offers... i'm a big fan of the two words... "no thanks". and then moving on. on the flip side... i never make any offers with the intent to offend people... however... i understand that people view things from different angles. so my advice to you... is enjoy the hobby and just learn to say, "no thanks".

    look forward to trading with you again in the future... i hope you enjoyed the jordans... you're a great asset to this community.


    that was an awesome trade. but i tell you 85%-90% of the ppl here wouldnt do it bc they be like "oh this only goes for this on here and there, and oh yaddda yadda"

    yeah, no thanks and having a mindset is something i need to wake up too.

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    Here is what I put when the offer is too low or the trade is not "fair" to me:
    "The card that you are interested in is on hold on other trade." A serious buyer or trader will offer more. If not, you can just take note and see if they are just trying to "steal" deal in every sell/trade posts.

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    I see both sides........ people like to make money and some are in it for the joy and pleasure of collecting. I sell things on ebay to buy more Pierce cards. I very seldom keep any other cards around. If I can trade a card for a card I don't have, I do it. I just traded away a $600.00 card for 2 inserts (low #/ed), a couple patches and a couple jersey cards because I did not have any of them or they were better looking than the cards I have.
    It is what ever makes a person happy I guess.

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    I trade just to trade...I'll do BV more times than anything else, but ultimately, if it's a card I need and a card he/she wants, I'll go with the trade...or, if it's auto for auto or GU for GU, I really don't care about the difference in value...I mean, if it's WAY off (like a Kobe GU for a cheap KG GU), I'll say something...but, usually I'm good with just about anything...the time I have a problem is when someone is knowingly trying to get more for their cards than what is fair.

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    Easily sell value. Beckett value is completely inaccurate most of the time. I had a couple cards that sell for $400, some of which book as much as $700, others only book $350.

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    if your selling a card by what what beckett thinks a card is worth really makes no sense, if a certain kind of card has sold on ebay over a dozen times for 20 -25 dollars and the book value is $100 i'd expect to buy it from someone on here for 20-25 dollars and not 40-50 like some people would wanna sell them for

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    Unless it´s a short-printed card or a star player auto i normally don´t even look at values, i normally go by instinct. Sometimes i lose a few bucks but it doesn´t really bother me.

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    Easily sell value. Beckett value is completely inaccurate most of the time. I had a couple cards that sell for $400, some of which book as much as $700, others only book $350.

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    I think a lot of people do not understand how to use Beckett.

    Beckett value is not a set number but a range. People feel that Beckett is inaccurate because they always look at the "HI Value" number only. That's not the case, the value of a card is a range of value not a set number. So a card is not worth $20, but worth $8 to $20 anywhere and can be expected to sell for any price in that range.

    For a $700 HI value card the range is typically $340 to $700, and if your card sold for $400 that means Beckett WAS correct and your card sold for what the price guide indicated. For the card that sold for more than it books, it might be due to other factors. Beckett doesn't take into account multipliers for nicer patches, special numbering, or other intangibles.

    Now, using Beckett accurately only yield the correct price around 80% of the time. The two major areas where Beckett is inaccurate right now is a) Exquisite cards b) 90's Jordan/other stars rare inserts. Beckett currently overprice exquisite cards while underpricing rare 90's inserts. For these two type of cards, it is better to use sell value. Lastly, as mentioned before Beckett does not take into account special numbering (jersey number's, #1/xx, #xx/xx) or Patch multipliers.

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    very good point whalechaser. If you just look at the high value as most people do, Beckett seems very inaccurate but when you use the range it is much more realistic. Beckett is not really a value, just a guide that tries to estimate a value by collecting data on the market. They provide a range of prices some cards have sold for and though Beckett could be more current on their pricing it is understandably difficult to be up to date on each and every card.
    Last edited by wrafman; 02-03-2010 at 08:12 PM.

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