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03-31-2010, 01:39 PM #11
I agree with this premise. My only question regarding how Beckett compiles it's information is this. Do they use documented sales as their source, or do they rely on unconfirmed data provided by major card shops and show dealers that have reason to keep the values inflated?
I question this because as it stands right now I have the ability to enter the price I paid to obtain cards directly to their database as I am entering my cards to my collection on their site. What benefit would there be for me to enter a "steal" price I got on a card that I have? In the long run, that price will be used to devalue my card and collection as a whole.
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03-31-2010, 03:09 PM #12
Very well put, and exactly why a price guide such as the proposed SCF one would be 100x more accurate. Plus it would actually have hard data supporting their price as opposed to the 'this is what we say it is' that we currently get from them. I would like to see some numbers that say this price was calculated using 20/100/10000, etc completed sales.
I mean does Beckett even look at ebay auctions (I know they say they do, but where is the proof), or do they rely on 5 dealers whose livelihood depends on the guide. Definitely a conflict of interest.
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03-31-2010, 04:43 PM #13
ebay is nice but it has hurt the value of cards ALOT. because soo many people sell the same card the price goes down alot. BV is great for trading because it apples vs. apples (regardless of what it may sell for it gives you an idea of how much great a certain card is over another)
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04-01-2010, 01:36 AM #14
for collecting? no. It has helped collectors get what they need.
for selling? yes. It has widened the market, which means you can get more options, which means lower prices.
for trading? It's up and down.
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04-01-2010, 02:57 PM #15
Ebay has been a good thing for both buyers and sellers.
1). For sellers, its like buying a table at the largest card convention on earth.
2). A seller will in most cases get a fair market value for the card (assuming they market it properly) because bidders from all over the world are competing to win it.
3). Buyers are basically browsing the largest card convention ever. Open 24/7. Can usually find more rare or hard-to-find cards that they would likely never see in their lifetime without ebay.
As for Beckett BV, it's merely one resource that can be used to gauge the value of a card in comparison to other cards. It means nothing else beyond that.
True sale value of a card is the highest value any buyer is willing to pay to get it. And you are correct, one day that might be $5, and another day it may be $100.
Prospecting is a great example. Just watch these card prices skyrocket when spring training and opening day comes around.
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04-01-2010, 11:48 PM #16
The new NASCAR cards, Spellbounds have a diecut letter for each of the drivers name. They have been ending for $3-4 because there have been hundreds of them on eBay, but Beckett probably is around $15-30 for them. Dont let eBay or Beckett rule, I just trade to make both parties happy.
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04-02-2010, 04:59 AM #17BANNED
I think if you're a true collector (one who collects), than ebay has helped. You can find just about any card, from any set on ebay and usually get the card for cheap. I just completed a 1997 football set that at the time, I figured would be impossible to finish. 13 years later and I finished it, thanks to ebay. Anyone who buys cards on ebay will probably tell you that ebay is awesome.
However, ask anyone who has sold something on ebay and they will probably tell you that ebay has hurt the hobby
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04-02-2010, 06:48 AM #18
Considering I buy all my cards and boxes on ebay and my collection would be nothing without it, I would say no it doesn't hurt the collecting at all. I live in upstate NY and there are literally 0 hobby shops within 20 minutes of my house. When I got back into collecting I had no where to go to get new cards to start collecting and trading with. Ebay is where I had to start and like I said, without ebay my collection would be pathetic and I probably would not even still be in the hobby. Since I buy 95% of my cards based on ebay sales there is no way I can complain about selling on ebay either except for all the ridiculous fees.
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04-02-2010, 08:51 AM #19
eBay has definitely helped my collecting! Without it (and especially the saved searches feature), I would never have even known about several of the obscure items I've added to my player collections. It's definitely the #1 sports card market place, I just kid of wish for single cards, they had the checklists entered into some sort of database so when 10 people are selling a 1990 Topps Frank Thomas card, they're not listed by 10 completely different names.
I see the whole price guide/book value/sale value thing as a nuisance. So many of Beckett's prices are completely out of date or arbitrary and haven't changed in years, that they tend to be meaningless. Beckett always over values GU/AU stuff. Just like when they establish pricing when a set is initially released. There must be 150 copies of the 2010 Topps Dave Winfield GU cards on eBay, the Beckett Marketplace, Sportlots and COMC right now, almost all of them listed for under $5, yet Beckett assigns some arbitrary value of $10 for them! According to Beckett's criteria, pretty much all of the 2010 cards only had one direction to go in value. Straight down.
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04-02-2010, 10:17 AM #20
eBay has helped card collection. It and the internet in general has opened up a vastly untapped market for sellers and buyers alike. The people complaining about ebay or online outlets are usually just people that can't compete or don't have an interest in being online for whatever reason. eBay has even allowed regular collectors who in the past only had a way to get rid of cards at a local trade night or to dealers for reduced prices a way to sell unneeded cards and put that money back into the hobby. It's definitely helped grow it.
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Originally Posted by theonedru 
