How to Spot a Fake Patch: You Decide, Fake or Real

[Nasty_Boy]

You decide. Are these Fake or are they real. (Click the Name)

1) Randy Johnson 2003 Topps Chrome Jersey Logo Patch
2) DWYANE WADE 2003-04 PATCHWORKS RC PATCH
3) 2001 LEAF MATERIAL FRANK THOMAS 3 COLOR PATCH
4) Torii Hunter 2003 Donruss Gamers Minnesota Logo Patch
5) 2000 UPPER DECK J.J. STOKES 3 COLOR JERSEY PATCH
6) 2001 FLEER GAME TIME UNIFORMITY FRED MCGRIFF PATCH SP
7) 2004 LEAF R&S PRIME CUTS BRETT FAVRE LOGO PATCH
8) 2000 Pacific Invincible Game Patch Jeff Bagwell
9) DONOVAN MCNABB 1999 UPPER DECK ROOKIE UD
10) 2000 Pacific Invincible FRANK THOMAS 4 Color Patch

[Xanadu]

I've heard about people doing this, but I gotta be honest; I just can't see how it's done. I mean, most patch cards that I've seen, if not ALL of them, were a little larger than the viewing hole. There is no way to split a card without wrinkling it a little that I can think of. If you managed to pull the original jersey piece out of the viewing hole, how could you stuff a patch, which is thicker, back into the same hole? Can someone explain this to me?

[Nasty_Boy]

I've heard about people doing this, but I gotta be honest; I just can't see how it's done. I mean, most patch cards that I've seen, if not ALL of them, were a little larger than the viewing hole. There is no way to split a card without wrinkling it a little that I can think of. If you managed to pull the original jersey piece out of the viewing hole, how could you stuff a patch, which is thicker, back into the same hole? Can someone explain this to me?

I've seen patch cards that were done so good, it almost fooled me. It's not about splitting a card, all it takes is a tweezer, a razor, some precision, and superglue.

Most cards are not into the card, as I have pulled Jersey Cards that had no jersey or damaged jerseys in them, that I can easily have pulled out and/or stuffed one in.

As a matter of fact, I use to see a guy create California Highway Patrol patches of regular base Kobe Bryant cards that would fool 40% of the buyers on eBay.

Quite frankly, there are 3 easy ways to spot a fake:

1) If there is a patch on the card and no where in the card does it say "Patch"
2) High Serial #d Cards w/ Patches
3) Buy it Now Prices vs. a typical Auction. Why have a Buy It Now when a Real Patch makes more money in Auction Format. It is to keep people from warning of others or low bids, which are red flags.

[Xanadu]

Quite frankly, there are 3 easy ways to spot a fake:

1) If there is a patch on the card and no where in the card does it say "Patch"
2) High Serial #d Cards w/ Patches

That sucks. I spent a lot of time and money tracking down 2003 Donruss Classics cards that had patches on them. Some are high #'d cards (print run as high as 500). They can't ALL be fakes, can they?

[pwaldo]

The only one that looks suspicious (don't know about sports other than baseball) is the Topps Chrome Randy Johnson. Those were just jersey cards and Topps back then did not just put a patch card without mentioning it. They by far had the least amount of patches made in the early 2000s so I doubt it would just get thrown on a Topps Chrome card. That's probably the only 100% fake one I can see...except maybe for the Hunter.

[Xanadu]

That's probably the only 100% fake one I can see...except maybe for the Hunter.

Would someone really put that much effort (navigating a knife through those numbers and doing it cleanly) for TORII HUNTER?!? I can see maybe Pujols or a HOFer, but Torii Hunter cards don't sell well to begin with.

[Nasty_Boy]

That sucks. I spent a lot of time and money tracking down 2003 Donruss Classics cards that had patches on them. Some are high #'d cards (print run as high as 500). They can't ALL be fakes, can they?

Anything that is #d high and if it doesn't say "Patch" or "Prime" is most likely fake.

Only way I'll buy one is from a reputable dealer. And reputable means that they own a card shop that is a well known shop. Not someone who has 100% feedback rating because I can show you a guy with a 10000+ 100% rating on eBay that is selling Fake Patches on eBay.

Or just click on my next reply

[Nasty_Boy]

Would someone really put that much effort (navigating a knife through those numbers and doing it cleanly) for TORII HUNTER?!? I can see maybe Pujols or a HOFer, but Torii Hunter cards don't sell well to begin with.

So since Torii Hunter isn't one. How about Todd Helton?

Compare this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Todd-Helton-2001...ported?afsrc=1

To this one:

[Nasty_Boy]

The only one that looks suspicious (don't know about sports other than baseball) is the Topps Chrome Randy Johnson. Those were just jersey cards and Topps back then did not just put a patch card without mentioning it. They by far had the least amount of patches made in the early 2000s so I doubt it would just get thrown on a Topps Chrome card. That's probably the only 100% fake one I can see...except maybe for the Hunter.

There's quite a few of them in that list.

[Djarum]

1 - Fake
2 - Real
3 - Fake
4 - Fake
5 - Real
6 - Fake
7 - Fake but used to be a real patch card... the person(s) inserted a more desireable patch into it to get more $$
8 - Real
9 - Real
10 - Real

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