ebay - again

[Lamplitersniper]

I think youre still way off base. There is NOTHING morally wrong with a buyer, who entered into a personally legal contract with a seller, purchasing something at the SELLERS REQUESTED PRICED. The buyer isnt short changing the seller if the price is wrong. The buyer isnt giving you counterfeit bills to make the sale.

There are deals like this all the time. For everything. I once found a car for sale for $1000. It needed a little work but as is it could have sold for around $5,000 easily. I knew with that work I could sell it for $10,000 and make at least a $7,000 profit. Because I did just that does that make me unethical or immoral? No.

The seller sets the price and buyer, if they want to pay that price, buys it.

I can take this to the other side of the spectrum if you want. Im scared for a society where someone makes a mistake and instead of owning up to it and taking care of it like a man, they complain and cry until they get their way while blaming other things for their own mistake.

Sorry to sound so harsh but I think youre attitude on the whole thing is ridiculous. The buyer had every right to demand the card for that price, and that doesnt make him immoral in any sense whatsoever.

[razzamaztaz]

But again, I know legally the buyer is right. That's not the issue.

What you're describing is a bargain, either the seller is hungry for very fast cash or unaware, and you can't really put a wrong BIN price on a car so its wrong comparing the cases . Bargains are to be found now and then.

Buy anyway, uncomparable cases, this wasn't about me not knowing true value, it's about a manual error when listing the card. And if someone gonna use that against me and push through a sale they're a jerk, simple as that. Or maybe they're taking it as a man, seeing as mostly men do these kind of thing. I'm a woman btw.

Just out of curiosity - if you shop in a store and the storeowner by mistake has put the price of a common jacket on an Armani suit, do you use legal threats to force through the buy or are you a decent person and tell the store "hey you put the wrong price, check that out".

Guess in your world it's all about using anyone's mistake and get the best deal whoever may suffer for it.

I know as a staff member I should not start arguments, so this is what I had to say and I won't go off ranting anymore, obviously I can't change anyone anyway.

[Lamplitersniper]

But again, I know legally the buyer is right. That's not the issue.

What you're describing is a bargain, either the seller is hungry for very fast cash or unaware, and you can't really put a wrong BIN price on a car so its wrong comparing the cases . Bargains are to be found now and then.

Buy anyway, uncomparable cases, this wasn't about me not knowing true value, it's about a manual error when listing the card. And if someone gonna use that against me and push through a sale they're a jerk, simple as that. Or maybe they're taking it as a man, seeing as mostly men do these kind of thing. I'm a woman btw.

Just out of curiosity - if you shop in a store and the storeowner by mistake has put the price of a common jacket on an Armani suit, do you use legal threats to force through the buy or are you a decent person and tell the store "hey you put the wrong price, check that out".

Guess in your world it's all about using anyone's mistake and get the best deal whoever may suffer for it.

I know as a staff member I should not start arguments, so this is what I had to say and I won't go off ranting anymore, obviously I can't change anyone anyway.

Firstly, clearly the "take it like a man" was an anecdote and not to be taken literally.

Secondly, companies have policies, Walmart and Publix probably being among the two biggest, that if something is priced wrong, they have to sell it for that price if a customer is trying to buy it due to that price. They understand that them putting that price on a product is a contractual agreement to sell it as such. They own up to an employees mistake and simply sell it for that price. Companies online (for the most part) will do the exact same thing. Sure sometimes it depends on how many people took advantage of the price mistake, but more often than not companies like Amazon will honor a price mistake and send out whatever was purchased at that price mistake.

Again there is nothing immoral about someone wanting something they paid for at a price that the SELLER listed. Its 100% on the seller to list things properly and if they dont its no ones problem but their own. You are trying to justify a buyer wanting the card at that price that YOU listed, by calling them jerks and immoral. Thats not only ignorant but completely false.

There is an entire forum, easily 5 times the size of this one, devoted to good deals. A lot of those good deals are based on someone finding a price mistake and posting it for everyone to get in on it. Most go through, some dont. But you are basically saying anyone who tries to get something that was priced wrong is morally challenged. Which is a huge farce. Again, the buyer isnt forcing a price mistake, or forcing a certain price. If the seller doesnt think its worth their time to make sure everything is correct before an ad of whatever kind is posted, thats their own fault.

Just consider yourself extremely lucky that the person who did hit the BIN is a nice guy. Thats all it is, them being nice to you and having sympathy on you. Its not them being morally correct.

[razzamaztaz]

Well, I don't like that forum part actually and is against it.

But first - the companies you mention are huge, Walmart, Amazon, of if we stay within hockey Dacard etc. They are big big companies. If I walk into a small family owned store, clothes, books, whatever, and use it against them they've done a horrible mistake I would feel guilty as hell cause I know that money loss will hit them hard. Just as I know if a privateperson listing a 100 or 200$ (or worse!) card and by mistake put a $5 BIN at it I know that person is gonna suffer. If you feel fine with that go ahead, it's your life, your choice and unfortunately most of the world is like this. It's even sadder no one else seems to back me up. This is not about saving my own *ss, I have helped a lot of sellers doing similar mistakes, just like the guy above me has, and I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of such situation. Btw, don't confuse "correct" with "morally correct". Tons of stuff in society may be correct but morally wrong.

[Lamplitersniper]

Well, I don't like that forum part actually and is against it.

But first - the companies you mention are huge, Walmart, Amazon, of if we stay within hockey Dacard etc. They are big big companies. If I walk into a small family owned store, clothes, books, whatever, and use it against them they've done a horrible mistake I would feel guilty as hell cause I know that money loss will hit them hard. Just as I know if a privateperson listing a 100 or 200$ (or worse!) card and by mistake put a $5 BIN at it I know that person is gonna suffer. If you feel fine with that go ahead, it's your life, your choice and unfortunately most of the world is like this. It's even sadder no one else seems to back me up. This is not about saving my own *ss, I have helped a lot of sellers doing similar mistakes, just like the guy above me has, and I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of such situation. Btw, don't confuse "correct" with "morally correct". Tons of stuff in society may be correct but morally wrong.

While we obviously arent going to agree on this in any sense. I do appreciate the, what I deem at least, civil conversation about it.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree, move on, and be happy that you got a nice buyer and will be able to list the card for what you wanted to in the beginning.

[max91ess]

I gotta agree with Lamplitersniper, When it happened to me, i sold the card...for 1$ instead of 10$..and another time 5$ instead of 50$.. the buyer asked me if i made a mistake i said yes, but if you still want it its okay..

He was nice enought to cancel it, and i gave him some nice prices for other item

One time some ebayer message me to make sure about a card, i said oops my mistake, he ended up buying for 150$, because i gave him deals for a few cards, for his generosity.

I think there is nothing immoral about it

[razzamaztaz]

Ok. Well, not sure if this is a cultural differences and this is ok in usa, it sure as heck wouldn't be morally right here, and actually, it has never happened to me or anyone else here in sweden cause then people say "hey you got this wrong you know". Maybe it's more "eat or be eaten" abroad. Whatever. Thanks for a civil discussion at least and I am very thankful for a nice buyer. Although, I did have to pay him off for being "nice". Forgot to say that little fact. ; )

[jonpop]

"Take a Neg deny the Knob"

"Im scared for a society where someone makes a mistake and instead of owning up to it and taking care of it like a man, they complain and cry until they get their way while blaming other things for their own mistake."

I like the society where you tell the buyer politely you made a mistake. If they continue bantering because they are just plain ignorant just tell them to hit the road. Be a man (woman) and tell them to shove it. Too many people run to the lawyers office now because they are socially inept. Just kick them to the curb.

[adamslogik]

I look at it this way. Once you start doing BUSINESS on ebay, you have a responsability to invest the appropriate time and effort to do it properly. which means taking the time to double check your listings.

Too many people use online auction sites to do business without actually treating it like REAL business, where mistakes have consequences so you should make sure you double check everything.

If it was me, I would count my blessings that the guy didn't insist, and be more careful next time.

Mistakes can happen, but the buyer is out looking for bargains, you can't fault him for finding one and jumping on it.

[ReimerFan]

A mistake posting is just that a mistake. Ebay is a contract and binding. If I were to make a sale for the wrong price, which I have, I always go through with the sale. Sometimes I will let the person know that the wrong price was entered as I would in your case. Sometimes they agree and will accept a deal on the card sometimes nothing and I ship the card for the wrong place.

I am at a middle road from both sides on this one. I will not expect someone to go through with a deal if I purchased something clearly priced by mistake but that's just me. I would have every right to as it was a contract but I wouldn't. I like getting a good deal like the next guy but not at the expense of someone else.

Most people are good people. They will understand and if push came to shove you could cancel the sale and likely take a negative feedback. Mistakes happen, just try to minimize them. You did the right thing, asked the buyer to cancel and offer something in return which I think it totally fair I would do the same. Just remember all the positive sales you have had, one negative does not make bad people, in this case it was not all that negative. It could have been worse!