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    oh and by value with the RPAs, i just meant that people are getting sicks deals on these right now on ebay, not that they are as limited as the bowman version.

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    Let's get one thing straight. Upper Deck lovers will NEVER change. They refuse to see the big picture. I think Contenders is a great product. The booklets are cool, the patches are awesome and the base set/rookies look great as well. If you switched the brand name to UD SP Authentic, the Upper Deck fans would be drooling all over it.

    To them, UD can do no wrong and anything else is just garbage. Don't waste your breath trying to change their minds

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    SPA in my opinion is one of the most over rated products out there. Then again I think most hockey products are pretty awful. Contenders is better than last year, but that doesn't mean it's all that great.

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    Let's get one thing straight. Upper Deck lovers will NEVER change. They refuse to see the big picture. I think Contenders is a great product. The booklets are cool, the patches are awesome and the base set/rookies look great as well. If you switched the brand name to UD SP Authentic, the Upper Deck fans would be drooling all over it.

    To them, UD can do no wrong and anything else is just garbage. Don't waste your breath trying to change their minds

    The same exact thing could be said about Panini Lovers.....

    SPA IMO is better (last years) because the SOTT beat the NHL INK. Crosby, Melrose, Gretzky. You cant find those guys on contenders.

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    Let's get one thing straight. Upper Deck lovers will NEVER change. They refuse to see the big picture. I think Contenders is a great product. The booklets are cool, the patches are awesome and the base set/rookies look great as well. If you switched the brand name to UD SP Authentic, the Upper Deck fans would be drooling all over it.

    To them, UD can do no wrong and anything else is just garbage. Don't waste your breath trying to change their minds

    I'd point out, though, that not all of us choosing SPA over Contenders are doing so out of blind allegiance to Upper Deck. I have no issue with products either company (or ITG), I just don't find the design that exciting.

    Love the NHL Ink, but I dislike the white on the rookies and I absolutely hate that those nice booklets are all sticker autos. I'd still like to land some, but they annoy me just as the BAP multi-autos with stickers have in the past.

    To each their own, but I just don't want all criticism glossed over because it's assumed that we're all UD cheerleaders. I know there are some, but some of just like their product better in this case.

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    Love the NHL Ink, but I dislike the white on the rookies and I absolutely hate that those nice booklets are all sticker autos. I'd still like to land some, but they annoy me just as the BAP multi-autos with stickers have in the past.


    I would quickly point out though, that any SPA auto card with 3 or more autos is stickered also. Imagine the wait time to get 4 or 6 signatures on the same card hard signed.

    I give kudos to Panini for having the triple autos hard signed.

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    NHL INK checklist: Teemu Selanne
    2 Ray Bourque
    3 Curtis Glencross
    4 Greg Nemisz
    5 Mark Giordano
    6 Jarome Iginla
    7 Roman Horak
    8 Cam Ward
    9 Justin Faulk
    10 Viktor Stalberg
    11 Marcus Kruger
    13 John Moore
    14 Kari Lehtonen
    15 Tomas Vincour
    16 Cory Emmerton
    17 Jimmy Howard
    18 Steve Yzerman
    20 Teemu Hartikainen
    21 Evgeny Dadonov
    22 Anze Kopitar
    23 Drew Doughty
    25 Nick Johnson
    26 Cal Clutterbuck
    27 Cody Almond
    29 Max Pacioretty
    30 Aaron Palushaj
    31 Colin Wilson
    32 Blake Geoffrion
    33 Craig Smith
    34 Adam Larsson
    35 John Tavares
    36 Derek Stepan
    39 Robin Lehner
    40 Colin Greening
    41 David Rundblad
    42 Erik Gustafsson
    43 Zac Rinaldo
    44 James van Riemsdyk
    45 Chris Pronger
    46 Claude Giroux
    48 Jaromir Jagr
    49 Matt Read
    50 Sean Couturier
    51 Andy Miele
    52 Evgeni Malkin
    53 James Neal
    55 Mario Lemieux
    56 Sidney Crosby
    57 Patrick Marleau
    58 Alex Pietrangelo
    59 Matt Frattin
    60 Dion Phaneuf
    61 James Reimer
    62 Carl Gunnarsson
    63 Daniel Sedin
    64 Henrik Sedin
    65 Cody Eakin
    66 Alex Ovechkin
    67 Eric Fehr
    68 Paul Postma
    69 Mark Scheifele
    70 Teemu Selanne

    SPA SOTT checklsit (10/11):

    SOT-AB Alexander Burmistrov
    SOT-AC Andrew Cogliano
    SOT-AN Antti Niemi
    SOT-AO Alexander Ovechkin
    SOT-AT Alex Tanguay
    SOT-BA Josh Bailey
    SOT-BC Bobby Clarke
    SOT-BM Barry Melrose
    SOT-BN Brayden Schenn
    SOT-BO Bobby Orr
    SOT-BR Bobby Ryan
    SOT-BS Bobby Sanguinetti
    SOT-CA Jeff Carter
    SOT-CO Chris Osgood
    SOT-CP Carey Price
    SOT-CR Sidney Crosby
    SOT-CS Chris Stewart
    SOT-CW Cam Ward
    SOT-DG Doug Gilmour
    SOT-DH Dany Heatley
    SOT-DS Devin Setoguchi
    SOT-EK Evander Kane
    SOT-EL Eric Lindros
    SOT-EM Evgeni Malkin
    SOT-ES Eric Staal
    SOT-ET Eric Tangradi
    SOT-GH Gordie Howe
    SOT-GR Wayne Gretzky
    SOT-HE Milan Hejduk
    SOT-HL Henrik Lundqvist
    SOT-JA Jay Bouwmeester
    SOT-JB Jamie Benn
    SOT-JC Jared Cowen
    SOT-JE Jordan Eberle
    SOT-JF Johan Franzen
    SOT-JG Jean-Sebastien Giguere
    SOT-JH Jaroslav Halak
    SOT-JI Jarome Iginla
    SOT-JK Jari Kurri
    SOT-JM Jamie McBain
    SOT-JP Joe Pavelski
    SOT-JS Jack Skille
    SOT-JT Joe Thornton
    SOT-JV James van Riemsdyk
    SOT-LC Logan Couture
    SOT-LE Lars Eller
    SOT-LR Luc Robitaille
    SOT-MA Mario Lemieux
    SOT-MB Martin Brodeur
    SOT-MC Matthew Corrente
    SOT-MD Matt Duchene
    SOT-MF Marc-Andre Fleury
    SOT-MH Marian Hossa
    SOT-MJ Marcus Johansson
    SOT-ML Mario Lemieux Sp
    SOT-MM Mark Messier
    SOT-MO Mike Modano
    SOT-MP Magnus Paajarvi
    SOT-MR Mike Richards
    SOT-MS Marc Staal
    SOT-MT Marty Turco
    SOT-NB Niclas Bergfors
    SOT-NL Nicklas Lidstrom
    SOT-NZ Nazem Kadri
    SOT-PB Patrice Bergeron
    SOT-PD Pavel Datsyuk
    SOT-PE Phil Esposito
    SOT-PK Patrick Kane
    SOT-PL Perttu Lindgren
    SOT-PM Peter Mueller
    SOT-PR Patrick Roy
    SOT-PS P.K. Subban
    SOT-RB Ray Bourque
    SOT-RE Ray Emery
    SOT-RI Brad Richards
    SOT-RK Ryan Kesler
    SOT-RM Ryan Miller
    SOT-RN Rick Nash
    SOT-RV Rogie Vachon
    SOT-SC Cory Schneider
    SOT-SH James Sheppard
    SOT-SI Sidney Crosby Sp
    SOT-SK Jeff Skinner
    SOT-SN Derek Stepan
    SOT-SS Steven Stamkos
    SOT-TA John Tavares
    SOT-TE Tony Esposito
    SOT-TH Taylor Hall
    SOT-TK Tim Kennedy
    SOT-TM Tyler Myers
    SOT-TO Jonathan Toews
    SOT-TS Tyler Seguin
    SOT-TV Thomas Vanek
    SOT-VH Victor Hedman
    SOT-WG Wayne Gretzky Sp
    SOT-WI Colin Wilson
    SOT-WS Wayne Simmonds
    SOT-ZH Zach Hamill


    NHL INK has some good stuff, but no Hall, Gretzky, or even Lindros.
    SPA wins IMO.

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    i would go with spa anyday, strong selection of players and good looking sets. Contenders is good but it does not beat SPA if you ask me.

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    NHL INK checklist: Teemu Selanne
    2 Ray Bourque
    3 Curtis Glencross
    4 Greg Nemisz
    5 Mark Giordano
    6 Jarome Iginla
    7 Roman Horak
    8 Cam Ward
    9 Justin Faulk
    10 Viktor Stalberg
    11 Marcus Kruger
    13 John Moore
    14 Kari Lehtonen
    15 Tomas Vincour
    16 Cory Emmerton
    17 Jimmy Howard
    18 Steve Yzerman
    20 Teemu Hartikainen
    21 Evgeny Dadonov
    22 Anze Kopitar
    23 Drew Doughty
    25 Nick Johnson
    26 Cal Clutterbuck
    27 Cody Almond
    29 Max Pacioretty
    30 Aaron Palushaj
    31 Colin Wilson
    32 Blake Geoffrion
    33 Craig Smith
    34 Adam Larsson
    35 John Tavares
    36 Derek Stepan
    39 Robin Lehner
    40 Colin Greening
    41 David Rundblad
    42 Erik Gustafsson
    43 Zac Rinaldo
    44 James van Riemsdyk
    45 Chris Pronger
    46 Claude Giroux
    48 Jaromir Jagr
    49 Matt Read
    50 Sean Couturier
    51 Andy Miele
    52 Evgeni Malkin
    53 James Neal
    55 Mario Lemieux
    56 Sidney Crosby
    57 Patrick Marleau
    58 Alex Pietrangelo
    59 Matt Frattin
    60 Dion Phaneuf
    61 James Reimer
    62 Carl Gunnarsson
    63 Daniel Sedin
    64 Henrik Sedin
    65 Cody Eakin
    66 Alex Ovechkin
    67 Eric Fehr
    68 Paul Postma
    69 Mark Scheifele
    70 Teemu Selanne

    SPA SOTT checklsit (10/11):

    SOT-AB Alexander Burmistrov
    SOT-AC Andrew Cogliano
    SOT-AN Antti Niemi
    SOT-AO Alexander Ovechkin
    SOT-AT Alex Tanguay
    SOT-BA Josh Bailey
    SOT-BC Bobby Clarke
    SOT-BM Barry Melrose
    SOT-BN Brayden Schenn
    SOT-BO Bobby Orr
    SOT-BR Bobby Ryan
    SOT-BS Bobby Sanguinetti
    SOT-CA Jeff Carter
    SOT-CO Chris Osgood
    SOT-CP Carey Price
    SOT-CR Sidney Crosby
    SOT-CS Chris Stewart
    SOT-CW Cam Ward
    SOT-DG Doug Gilmour
    SOT-DH Dany Heatley
    SOT-DS Devin Setoguchi
    SOT-EK Evander Kane
    SOT-EL Eric Lindros
    SOT-EM Evgeni Malkin
    SOT-ES Eric Staal
    SOT-ET Eric Tangradi
    SOT-GH Gordie Howe
    SOT-GR Wayne Gretzky
    SOT-HE Milan Hejduk
    SOT-HL Henrik Lundqvist
    SOT-JA Jay Bouwmeester
    SOT-JB Jamie Benn
    SOT-JC Jared Cowen
    SOT-JE Jordan Eberle
    SOT-JF Johan Franzen
    SOT-JG Jean-Sebastien Giguere
    SOT-JH Jaroslav Halak
    SOT-JI Jarome Iginla
    SOT-JK Jari Kurri
    SOT-JM Jamie McBain
    SOT-JP Joe Pavelski
    SOT-JS Jack Skille
    SOT-JT Joe Thornton
    SOT-JV James van Riemsdyk
    SOT-LC Logan Couture
    SOT-LE Lars Eller
    SOT-LR Luc Robitaille
    SOT-MA Mario Lemieux
    SOT-MB Martin Brodeur
    SOT-MC Matthew Corrente
    SOT-MD Matt Duchene
    SOT-MF Marc-Andre Fleury
    SOT-MH Marian Hossa
    SOT-MJ Marcus Johansson
    SOT-ML Mario Lemieux Sp
    SOT-MM Mark Messier
    SOT-MO Mike Modano
    SOT-MP Magnus Paajarvi
    SOT-MR Mike Richards
    SOT-MS Marc Staal
    SOT-MT Marty Turco
    SOT-NB Niclas Bergfors
    SOT-NL Nicklas Lidstrom
    SOT-NZ Nazem Kadri
    SOT-PB Patrice Bergeron
    SOT-PD Pavel Datsyuk
    SOT-PE Phil Esposito
    SOT-PK Patrick Kane
    SOT-PL Perttu Lindgren
    SOT-PM Peter Mueller
    SOT-PR Patrick Roy
    SOT-PS P.K. Subban
    SOT-RB Ray Bourque
    SOT-RE Ray Emery
    SOT-RI Brad Richards
    SOT-RK Ryan Kesler
    SOT-RM Ryan Miller
    SOT-RN Rick Nash
    SOT-RV Rogie Vachon
    SOT-SC Cory Schneider
    SOT-SH James Sheppard
    SOT-SI Sidney Crosby Sp
    SOT-SK Jeff Skinner
    SOT-SN Derek Stepan
    SOT-SS Steven Stamkos
    SOT-TA John Tavares
    SOT-TE Tony Esposito
    SOT-TH Taylor Hall
    SOT-TK Tim Kennedy
    SOT-TM Tyler Myers
    SOT-TO Jonathan Toews
    SOT-TS Tyler Seguin
    SOT-TV Thomas Vanek
    SOT-VH Victor Hedman
    SOT-WG Wayne Gretzky Sp
    SOT-WI Colin Wilson
    SOT-WS Wayne Simmonds
    SOT-ZH Zach Hamill


    NHL INK has some good stuff, but no Hall, Gretzky, or even Lindros.
    SPA wins IMO.

    I think it's great Gretzky being on the checklist.

    That being said he will be a group A pull, 1 in like 8:000 packs or some such nonsense. He might as well not be on the checklist at all.

    Also, Taylor Hall is in the Contenders Inks, but only on the duals and triples.

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    In my opinion, the SOTT checklist is clearly better than the NHL Ink checklist.

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