Walmart Truth revealed

[tutall]

As unrealistic as thinking everyone chooses the job they want? As unrealistic as thinking everyone has access to the education necessary for a good job? The current knowledge to even know whether or not they have access? The social skills to get a job?

Not everyone was raised with a decent education or any of the other perks you did. Stop acting like everything is so easy for everyone all the time. It's unrealistic.

Or do you believe we should all wait until we are "financially ready" for a family? Love that girl? Too bad, you can't marry her and start a family because you're poor! Is that your idea of a good society? How much should I have saved up before having kids? A hard number please.

Or how about the guy who already has a family and a good job, except that Romney bought and closed down the company for the good of the nation and can now only work at WalMart? Is he being unrealistic? I know 3 people who were small business owners before Home Depot moved in, now they make $15/hr at HD because HD drove them out of business. Were they unrealistic?

Think.

I do believe that... I did it in small town America with no college education... It is actually very irresponsible to think you can bring a child into this world without being financially responsible and being able to afford all things that come with children. Is there a certain number? No... But having debt paid off and at least something in the bank account will set you on a much better path than living paycheck to paycheck...

For the Home Depot scenario.. Did those people that ran the small business provide their employees with jobs paying near 15/hr and benefits? All the slamming against companies like Wal Mart but small businesses are typically worse for everyone but the owner... How many mom and pop type owners offer their employees health insurance and 401k match?

[shrewsbury]

when walmart came to oberlin we had about 6 mom and pop stores close. since then we have had a 4 mom and pop stores open, one expand, and an ace hardware move in.
I feel bad for anyone who loses a job or has to close their store, but the reality is the economy sucks and people are looking for the best prices. best prices are provided by those with the buying power to get stuff cheap and sell it cheap.

as far as the privilege people go, most of us are not. when I got into my current industry I made minimum wage, busted my butt and kept moving up the ladder. most of the 30 or so other techs did not, so I passed them on the pay scale, position, and industry demand.

[Wickabee]

I do believe that... I did it in small town America with no college education... ?

No you didn't. There is no such thing as " financially ready" to have a child.

Lose the fallacies and you may see reality. Also, ana again, not everyone is you or had what you had.

[tutall]

No you didn't. There is no such thing as " financially ready" to have a child.

Lose the fallacies and you may see reality. Also, ana again, not everyone is you or had what you had.

Please do not flatter yourself and think you are smarter than you are... I was financially ready, we planned for some time and had finances in place to cover expenses we knew were coming up. Sure things can happen through the course or raising kids that can throw you off a plan but you should always have a backup plan to the backup plan. If not and something happens do not expect help to come your way.

Also as far as what I had.... Its crap.... Poor is a state of mind. I have been broke I have never been poor. Poor is expecting to never get out of the situation you are in, broke is not having money in the account but having plan to go get it. If you are not willing to go get it I have no sympathy for you. Anyone can start a small business selling something or making something or providing a service. There are very few people who cannot pick up a shovel, mow yards, something.

[Wickabee]

Please do not flatter yourself and think you are smarter than you are

I'd say "same to you" but I don't need to insult people to get my point across.

And there is no such thing. Unless you're super wealthy from your parents. Maybe you were, maybe you weren't, I don't know. But for 99% of the population there is simply no such thing as financially ready for having a child. I don't care if you planned. People have planned for alien landings, so I guess aliens are real!

Seriously, if you want to talk about self-flattery, look at your own posts and how you're claiming to be so much better than everyone.

[tutall]

I'd say "same to you" but I don't need to insult people to get my point across.

And there is no such thing. Unless you're super wealthy from your parents. Maybe you were, maybe you weren't, I don't know. But for 99% of the population there is simply no such thing as financially ready for having a child. I don't care if you planned. People have planned for alien landings, so I guess aliens are real!

Seriously, if you want to talk about self-flattery, look at your own posts and how you're claiming to be so much better than everyone.

if by better than everyone you mean practice self responsibility than yes.. I am.. I came from a single mom in a county with the highest unemployment rate in the nation. Far from super wealthy parents. I worked hard to get a great job and waited to have kids until we had the financial resources to take care of them. Far from rocket science... But everyone deserves the American Dream regardless if they work for it or not right?

[centrehice]

Personal opportunity while being WHITE and taken advantage of that WHITE opportunity, is a far superior starting point in the USA than if you are of minority race.

Paint it any way you like it, it's true.

I love how a White American give his own personal White success story, living in his White community, surrounded by other majority Whites with the same opportunities of hard work.

Being born dirt poor and of minority race in the USA is much lower and more difficulty starting point.

We are always going to disagree. Here's why.

Canadians Raised by a Communal Spirit
Americans Raised by an Independent Wealth Spirit. (but only if you are white)

Might as well agree to disagree. I don't give a damn about Corporate America, or Corporate Canada. I do give a damn about my fellow citizens.

[tutall]

Personal opportunity while being WHITE and taken advantage of that WHITE opportunity, is a far superior starting point in the USA than if you are of minority race.

Paint it any way you like it, it's true.

I love how a White American give his own personal White success story, living in his White community, surrounded by other majority Whites with the same opportunities of hard work.

Being born dirt poor and of minority race in the USA is much lower and more difficulty starting point.

We are always going to disagree. Here's why.

Canadians Raised by a Communal Spirit
Americans Raised by an Independent Wealth Spirit. (but only if you are white)

Might as well agree to disagree. I don't give a damn about Corporate America, or Corporate Canada. I do give a damn about my fellow citizens.

How do you explain the people who actually raise up and do something to get out of poor black America? Do you think they don't get out of the situation because they are black and poor, or they do not get out of the situation because they can look around and choose to live status quo? I am surrounded by poor. 1 out of 4 adults in the county I live in are on government aid and live in poverty. I can also say there is a percentage , not all but a percentage that could do something about it and get a job. I hear people all day every day in my job play the poor me card instead of going and doing something about it.

In my opinion the biggest factor in urban areas that have high poverty rates is a combination of lack of education and hope. I am really not sure what this has to do with Wal Mart but here we are I guess.

[centrehice]

How do you explain the people who actually raise up and do something to get out of poor black America? Do you think they don't get out of the situation because they are black and poor, or they do not get out of the situation because they can look around and choose to live status quo? I am surrounded by poor. 1 out of 4 adults in the county I live in are on government aid and live in poverty. I can also say there is a percentage , not all but a percentage that could do something about it and get a job. I hear people all day every day in my job play the poor me card instead of going and doing something about it.

In my opinion the biggest factor in urban areas that have high poverty rates is a combination of lack of education and hope. I am really not sure what this has to do with Wal Mart but here we are I guess.

You are white and will never know, neither will I, but I see it, recognize it and would rather do something collectively to make my society better for everyone. You again appear to be concerned only about yourself.

Starting over once, twice, or 3-10 times in North America is still White Opportunity, no matter how you slice it.

[tutall]

You are white and will never know, neither will I, but I see it, recognize it and would rather do something collectively to make my society better for everyone. You again appear to be concerned only about yourself.

Starting over once, twice, or 3-10 times in North America is still White Opportunity, no matter how you slice it.

Don't get me wrong.. I agree with you. Where we differ is I think this help needs to come through charities, churches, and community aid. I do not want our inefficient government to pretend they know how to fix it and throw money at the situation.