No Communion for Obama Supporters

[RedGoneWILD]

Red... a subscription to Rush Limbaugh's newsletter automatically comes with a list of Unverifiable, Controversial, and Non-intellectuall Statements to Throw into a Heated Argument.

ahh...i guess he's still bitter about being kicked off ESPN

as a catholic, when you recieve communion, you are recieving the body of christ. We also have reconciliation in which a church member goes and confesses his sins to the priest. Sounds to me this would be the best place for the obama voters to go and ask for forgiveness. We all sin, but still can receive communion, the two have nothing to due with each other.
BTW, I dont think its a sin to vote for a canidate that you believe in,even if they support something that is a sin.

i see your last sentence, but do you think a person who voted for Obama should have reconciliation or whatever because they voted for a person who is pro-choice? are there people who go to your church who are pro-choice? and if so, just for supporting the idea, do they have to confess their sins for thinking that way? is it a sin to believe in a woman's choice?

[ensbergcollector]

ahh...i guess he's still bitter about being kicked off ESPN



i see your last sentence, but do you think a person who voted for Obama should have reconciliation or whatever because they voted for a person who is pro-choice? are there people who go to your church who are pro-choice? and if so, just for supporting the idea, do they have to confess their sins for thinking that way? is it a sin to believe in a woman's choice?

i love how you can write an entire paragraph about abortion without every saying abortion. That is one of the things that is so frustrating for me, as someone who is against abortion. People who are "pro-choice" like to leave abortion out of the conversation because it is hard to argue against choice. (Not trying to attack you, just making an observation about pro-choice people in general).
I wish I could remember who said it, but about 5 years ago, a senator said he could basically get any law he wanted passed by calling it the "civil rights act of 20??" His point was that we were no longer dealing with the actual issue at hand, but rather the words we have attached to them to sway the argument in our direction.

[tnopud42]

There are so many inconsistencies in the Catholic Church and its teaching that it would take days to examine them all. And I can say this as a Catholic who attended parochial school for a number of years.

[aw00d05]

what about REVEREND WRIGHT? i wouldn't call him a good man and he is considered a "religous figure" even though all he did was bash white people. that is totally ok, but a white priest says that obama isn't christian because he disagrees with one thing in the bible makes him a terrible man when reverend wright is one of the most biggotist persons in the world today. and to think that he was obama's mentor, hmmm don't most people agree with their pastors if they go to their church for 20 years?? o yea i forgot obama can play the race card.

[RedGoneWILD]

i love how you can write an entire paragraph about abortion without every saying abortion. That is one of the things that is so frustrating for me, as someone who is against abortion. People who are "pro-choice" like to leave abortion out of the conversation because it is hard to argue against choice. (Not trying to attack you, just making an observation about pro-choice people in general).
I wish I could remember who said it, but about 5 years ago, a senator said he could basically get any law he wanted passed by calling it the "civil rights act of 20??" His point was that we were no longer dealing with the actual issue at hand, but rather the words we have attached to them to sway the argument in our direction.

well, you refer to people who are pro-choice as pro-ABORTION, which is also twisting the words to sway the argument in your direction...who the hell is pro-ABORTION? i certainly think you know what issue we are talking about when i say pro-choice...i dont think throwing in the word ABORTION was going to change what i had to say...and you're right, it is hard to argue against choice...and since ABORTION is all about freedom of choice, what the hell are we arguing about?

there's always something wrong with arguing for women to have a choice to get an ABORTION...either we bring up the rape/incest reason, or we conveniently leave out the word ABORTION from our argument...the one's who are pro-life, i mean, anti-ABORTION only seem to bring up the bible when arguing against ABORTION...you've admitted that if the bible said different, you'd think different...

realize that when ABORTION was illegal in this country, women had them done anyway...only they want to an unlicensed physician who didn't provide any type of quality medical care...you've argued before that if we outlaw guns, those who want them will still get them...so why would you think if we outlaw ABORTIONS, people will just stop getting them?

anyway, the point of my post is i had some questions...thats all that post was...i also want to know if we outlaw ABORTION, do we also outlaw spontaneous ABORTION? or is a spontaneous ABORTION just what God had decided was best?

[RedGoneWILD]

what about REVEREND WRIGHT? i wouldn't call him a good man and he is considered a "religous figure" even though all he did was bash white people. that is totally ok, but a white priest says that obama isn't christian because he disagrees with one thing in the bible makes him a terrible man when reverend wright is one of the most biggotist persons in the world today. and to think that he was obama's mentor, hmmm don't most people agree with their pastors if they go to their church for 20 years?? o yea i forgot obama can play the race card.

Reverend Wright has been blasted for the last 8 months....where have you been?

[Yanksfan396]

aw... you have an uncanny ability for bringing up Wright. Seems like you do it in every other thread. This is about a member of the church practically punishing those who voted for Obama. This isn't about bigotry.

[msriflegirl]

well, you refer to people who are pro-choice as pro-ABORTION, which is also twisting the words to sway the argument in your direction...who the hell is pro-ABORTION?

I wish I could kiss you

[jvansande]

ahh...i guess he's still bitter about being kicked off ESPN



i see your last sentence, but do you think a person who voted for Obama should have reconciliation or whatever because they voted for a person who is pro-choice?

No, most voted for other issues, you can vote for someone and still disagree with certain points

are there people who go to your church who are pro-choice? and if so, just for supporting the idea, do they have to confess their sins for thinking that way?
Of course there are. If a person gets an abortion, they have sinned. If a person supports a womans right to choose (not sure-I am not God)

is it a sin to believe in a woman's choice?

I am going to follow up on this tomorrow, you have me stumped red

[ensbergcollector]

well, you refer to people who are pro-choice as pro-ABORTION, which is also twisting the words to sway the argument in your direction...who the hell is pro-ABORTION? i certainly think you know what issue we are talking about when i say pro-choice...i dont think throwing in the word ABORTION was going to change what i had to say...and you're right, it is hard to argue against choice...and since ABORTION is all about freedom of choice, what the hell are we arguing about?

there's always something wrong with arguing for women to have a choice to get an ABORTION...either we bring up the rape/incest reason, or we conveniently leave out the word ABORTION from our argument...the one's who are pro-life, i mean, anti-ABORTION only seem to bring up the bible when arguing against ABORTION...you've admitted that if the bible said different, you'd think different...

realize that when ABORTION was illegal in this country, women had them done anyway...only they want to an unlicensed physician who didn't provide any type of quality medical care...you've argued before that if we outlaw guns, those who want them will still get them...so why would you think if we outlaw ABORTIONS, people will just stop getting them?

anyway, the point of my post is i had some questions...thats all that post was...i also want to know if we outlaw ABORTION, do we also outlaw spontaneous ABORTION? or is a spontaneous ABORTION just what God had decided was best?

i have said before and I will say it again, if you look at the front lines of the pro-choice movement you will see that it has nothing to do with choice. It has to do with promoting abortion. Read a little about planned parenthood.
Again, i apologize if it came across like I was attacking you but I do think it is funny we can have an entire debate about abortion and those in favor of it, never use the word because it is messy and doesn't sound as PC as pro-choice.

Yeah, women still got abortions when it was illegal. Man, we better take every thing that is illegal and make them legal because people are gonna do it anyway.
I bring up the bible the amount I do because if I bring it up more, i get blasted as being a moron who follows an archaic book and frankly I would rather not hear that all the time.

look, abortion boils down to whether or not you believe a life is a life at conception. If you do, then abortion is murder. Some agree, some do not. Murder isn't an issue of choice. That is why the "pro-choice" label seems a little fake to those who are against abortion. Choice is about what clothes to wear, what school to attend, what job to have. Choice isn't about whether to kill another human being. Like I said, pro-choice people don't see it that way and I know that. Just explaining why it is an issue for me.